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New York Giants (5-1) 20, Green Bay Packers (3-3) 3

Sunday November 1st 1959 (at New York)



(NEW YORK) - The Packers had enough defense to win most games, but they had no offense in Yankee Stadium Sunday afternoon. The Giants blitzed and overran the Bay scoring machine to make off with a bitterly-contested 20 to 3 victory before the largest crowd ever to see Green Bay play the Giants here, 67,831. It was Green Bay's third straight loss, setting the record at 3-3, while the Giants won their fourth in a row for a 5-1 reading at the top of the Eastern Division. The Packers, apparently doing things in three, now hope to start another trio of three straight wins against the Bears in Chicago Sunday. The failure of the Packers' offense was a bitter blow to Packer Coach Vince Lombardi, the former Giant offense mentor, who was coming home for the first time. But it wasn't all the New York defense. Starting quarterback Lamar McHan came up with a stiff shoulder, the result of an injury in the Baltimore game, and couldn't throw with any degree of accuracy. This ruined the smoothness of the attack the Packers had been receiving and expecting from McHan. Joe Francis relieved McHan in the second quarter and moved the Packers deep into Giant territory twice, the first of which was converted into Paul Hornung's 28-yard field goal and a 7-3 score.


The second time, a few seconds before the half revealed some of the Packers' bad lick - they really didn't get any breaks this day. Hornung's boot from 15 yards out hit the right upright and bounced back onto the playing field. Those were the only two times the Packers got into Giant territory until the last minute when Jim Temp intercepted Don Heinrich's batted up pass behind the line of scrimmage on the Giants' 20. He ran it to the eight, but on the first play Jim Taylor fumbled and Sam Huff recovered on the five. That was it - the last straw. Actually, the Packers defensed the Giants down to one touchdown, the second, and that was set up by a costly interference penalty. Both Giant TDs were scored by Alex Webster. In the first quarter, Don McIlhenny fumbled on the Packers' three yard line, the ball being put there by a 55-yard punt by Don Chandler, and Ed Modzelewski recovered. Webster powered over for 7-0 on the first play. The other TD came on a 67-yard drive at the start of the second half. With first down on the Packer 24, Bob Freeman interfered with Webster and the Giants had first down on the 7. Webster poured over from there. The other Giant points came on two 49-yard field goals by Pat Summerall - both tremendous boots. The first made it 10-3 just before the half. The second made it 20-3 late in the third quarter.


The Packers were defensed down to two first downs in the second half - on a McHan pass to Boyd Dowler for 14 and a Francis pass to Dowler for 7 and Taylor's 12-yard run. Jim was making his first run on the foot he burned in a home accident Oct. 5. The Giants won the statistics, too, 15 first downs to 9, 79 ground yards to 69, and 144 air yards to 112. Max McGee had to punt 10 times, showing the toughness of the Giant defense. The Packers started by grinding out a first down after receiving the opening kickoff. Lew Carpenter and Hornung ran 11 yards in three attempts to the Bay 33. On the first play of the next series, Don McIlhenny ran three yards. Then it happened: Carpenter lost six and Hornung lost five. Punt!


The Packers forced Chandler to punt quicker than that - in one series, but Chandler got off a high boot that Carpenter couldn't field. The ball was stopped from going into the end zone by Brown on the three. Then came McIlhenny's fumble on a slant off left guard. He coughed up the ball when hit by Harland Svare. Webster made it 7-0. The defense took over and McGee punted three times and Chandler once as the game moved into the second quarter. The Giants, starting on their own 30, strung together two first downs but Bill Forester caught King for a six-yard loss and Bobby Dillon batted down Conerly's long pass in the end zone.



Francis took over at this point for the first time in a league game this season and Taylor went to fullback. On second and six, Joe hurled to McIlhenny for 23 and three plays later Francis, on a rollout, dropped a 23-yarder into McIlhenny's arms on the Giant 24. The attack stalled and Hornung kicked the only Bay points. Summerall missed a 52-yard field goal a moment later. Dillon took a short kick on the two, and returned to the 12, but Em Tunnell, who was playing his heart against his former teammates, was accused of clipping, putting the ball back on the 5. McGee, punting from his own end zone, punted to Morrison, who fumbled but, as you might expect this day, it rolled out of bounds. A moment later, Summerall kicked the first of his 49-yard field goals.


Just before the half ended, two wonderful catches of Francis passes by Hornung (20 yards) and Gary Knafelc (17 yards) set the Packers on the Giants' 27. A Giant tripping penalty put the ball on the 17 with only a minute left. Hornung and Francis, in two plays, ran to the 8 with only a couple of inches needed for a first down. Francis then threw wide to McGee in the end zone and on fourth down and 32 seconds left Hornung's boot hit the upright. The big play in the Giants' TD march in the third quarter was a 32-yard pass from Conerly to Webster to the Packer 38. They moved to the 24 on Morrison's 5-yard run and an 8-yard pass to Schnelker. Then came the interference penalty and Webster's TD run. Hank Gremminger went into Freeman's spot on the next series and went the rest of the way. After an exchange of punts, McHan went back into action and uncorked a 14-yard pass to Dowler to the Packer 32. But the Giants weren't to be denied. On a second down play, McHan was dumped for a 9-yard loss by Andy Robustelli and on the next play McIlhenny dropped McHan's throw and McGee's punt was almost blocked. After Summerall's next field goal at 11:18 of the third period, the Giants made another move as the quarters changed. But Forester blasted King back seven yards and Bettis untied Conerly's shoestrings with an eight-yard loss and Summerall tried another field goal, missing from the 47. The rest was a punting match. McGee by the way, averaged 44 yards on 10 kicks; Chandler 46 on 6.

GREEN BAY -  0  3  0  0 -  3

NEW YORK  -  7  3 10  0 - 20

                       GREEN BAY      NEW YORK

First Downs                    9            15

Rushing-Yards-TD         26-69-0       40-80-2

Att-Comp-Yd-TD-Int  26-7-112-0-1 31-15-144-0-1

Sack Yards Lost               21             9

Total Yards                  160           215

Fumbles-lost                 2-2           2-0

Turnovers                      3             1

Yards penalized             3-28          3-25


1st - NY - Alex Webster, 3-yard run (Pat Summerall kick) NEW YORK 7-0

2nd - GB - Paul Hornung, 28-yard field goal NEW YORK 7-3

2nd - NY - Summerall, 49-yard field goal NEW YORK 10-3

3rd - NY - Webster, 7-yard run (Summerall kick) NEW YORK 17-3

3rd - NY - Summerall, 49-yard field goal NEW YORK 20-3


GREEN BAY - Paul Hornung 11-36, Jim Taylor 2-15, Don McIlhenny 5-11, Lew Carpenter 5-5, Joe Francis 2-5, Lamar McHan 1-(-3)

NEW YORK - Joe Morrison 11-38, Alex Webster 8-23 2 TD, Phil King 16-10, Mel Triplett 5-9


GREEN BAY - Joe Francis 18-5-91 1 INT, Lamar McHan 8-2-21

NEW YORK - Charlie Conerly 29-14-139, Don Heinrich 2-1-5 1 INT


GREEN BAY - Don McIlhenny 3-54, Boyd Dowler 2-21, Paul Hornung 1-19, Gary Knafelc 1-18

NEW YORK - Alex Webster 6-67, Joe Morrison 4-33, Bob Schnelker 2-21, Pat Summerall 1-11, Mel Triplett 1-7, Phil King 1-4



NOV 2 (New York-Green Bay Press-Gazette) - The Packers' loss was a real disappointment for Head Coach Vince Lombardi. He certainly had a right to expect a better offensive performance. But he didn't use McHan's injury as the trouble, saying: "We were just overpowered on offense. We couldn't move." As to McHan, Vince said: "I never should have started him." McHan injured his shoulder in the Baltimore game and it was difficult for him to throw at times during the week. It was hurting some in practice Saturday and before the game. He seemed to be in trouble on short passes, a couple of which went wide and lost two first downs...Jim Lee Howell, the Giants' coach, said he was "disappointed" with his offense, explaining: "We only had one drive all day. We can be lucky Green Bay didn't score some." Howell was enthusiastic about Don Chandler's punting and said "the one he put on the three-yard line might have turned the game some toward us." Don McIlhenny fumbled at that point and the Giants turned it into a touchdown. The New York coach said he felt "Robustelli and Patton played exceptional games on our defensive platoon. Patton hurt his knee in practice Saturday morning and we almost died. He was okay though. That Green Bay defense sure gave us trouble. Their red dogs started to work good in the second half and I'm anxious to find out why," Howell said...BRIEFS: There was a light sprinkle a moment before the kickoff but the sun soon popped out...Frank Gifford, the Giants' ace back, didn't suit up. He talked with Vince on the field during the pre-game warmups...The Packers were booed something fierce when they took the field...Gifford's replacement, Joe Morrison, ran 11 times for 38 yards and caught four passes for 33 yards.


NOV 2 (Annapolis, MD) - E.E. (Rip) Miller, Navy's assistant athletic director, has acknowledged he was given "the once over lightly" for the job as commissioner of the proposed AFL. Miller, who was one of the "Seven Mules" under Knute Rockne at Notre Dame, said he conferred with Lamar Hunt and Harry Wismer of the new professional league in New York last week. "Wismer is a personal friend of mine, and I went to New York at his request to talk about the business and financial end of operating football," Miller said. "During our talks, they gave me the once over lightly about the commissioner's job. That's as far as that went. I didn't tell them I wasn't interest, but I did tell them I'm happy where I am and I'm not looking for a job." Miller graduated from Notre Dame in 1925 and came to Navy in 1926 as an assistant coach.



NOV 3 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - The Packers' loss to the Giants revealed two returning bright spots today: (1) Defense and (2) Jim Taylor. Green Bay, you know, had been clipped for 83 points in successive losses to the Rams and Colts. The Giants finished with 20, but our defensers hardly could be charged with one of the touchdowns (on a fumble on the Pack 3) and the two 49-yard field goals. Before the Rams and Colts piled up 11 touchdowns, the Packers had given up only three TDs in successive wins over the Bears, Lions and 49ers. The performance vs. New York indicates that the Bays' defense had found the touch again. Actually, the Packers had top defensive showings in four of the six games in the first half of the season. The record very easily could have been a corresponding 4-2 but for a lack of offense vs. the Giants. But that's where Taylor comes in. The hard-cracking fullback, who burned his hand and foot in a home accident the Tuesday before the club's second game, unexpectedly returned to the line in New York. Jim, still 10 pounds underweight Sunday and perhaps a bit weak by pro football standards, carried twice and turned in the Bays' longest run from scrimmage, 12 yards. On his next carry, however, Taylor fumbled three yards away from a touchdown in the last few seconds. That would have made the score 20-10. The muscular balance-wheel in the Packer backfield will be at top condition when the Packer battle their traditional foe, the Bears, in Chicago next Sunday. Jim's hand has a new layer of skin, requiring no bandage. The top of his burned foot has a "crust" and is healing well. Taylor's return means that some of the pressure will be removed from Paul Hornung, the Bays' do-everything back. "They've been concentrating on Hornung with Taylor out of there," Coach Vince Lombardi said, "and Hornung looked better out there when Taylor was in." Sliding Jim was used sparingly, seven or eight plays - just enough to get his feet wet...Lamar McHan started treatments on his shoulder Monday and he figures to be ready for the Bears. He suffered the injury in the Colt game and it bothered him most of last week. "Maybe I should have thrown more. Maybe it (the shoulder injury) was psychological, but it threw me way off. I was pushing the ball and I couldn't hit a thing, couldn't follow through," McHan said Monday. With a "right" McHan, the Packers undoubtedly would have scored a touchdown somewhere along the way despite the Giants' fine defensive play. Then it would have been anybody's game. Joe Francis replaced McHan in the second quarter and brought the team in twice - once for a field goal and the other time for a field goal that hit the right upright. Francis played all but two series in the second half. Francis' long term Sunday doesn't mean that he is the club's No. 2 quarterback behind McHan and ahead of Bart Starr, the four-year veteran. The club doesn't necessarily have a No. 2 QB, but Francis is a better athlete than Starr...Johnny Symank came out of the game with a broken nose, but it won't bother him for the Bear game. Symank made a couple of jarring tackles on the punt and kickoff platoons, ran back kickoffs and wound up replacing Bobby Dillon late in the game. Dillon picked up a pinched nerve in his arm - plus a swat in the face. Emlen Tunnell came up with a stiff neck, which likely will be okay for the Bears...A long look at the game pictures with aides Norb Hecker, Phil Bengtson, Bill Austin and Red Cochran confirmed what Lombardi suspected: "We played good enough on defense to win, but they overpowered our offense, forcing us to throw," Vince said. Lombardi is a firm believer in running to victory, mixing the ground and aerial weapons. And there was a good example of that in Baltimore Sunday. The Browns had the best runner and some passing; the Colts had the best passing and no running. Cleveland won!


NOV 3 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Packer quarterback Lamar McHan was hurled for a nine-yard loss by Giant Andy Robustelli and Company midway in the third quarter. On the ground on each side of McHan were the Packers' two tackles, Forrest Gregg and Bob Skoronski. McHan faded back and into his loss when the blocking collapsed. The two 250-pound tackles were pushed back most of the way. That gives you an idea of how the Giants handled the Packer line when they decided to storm. The Giants used what they call the "storm" defense. Packer Coach Vince Lombardi told New York writers that "it was the best defensive game I ever saw the Giants play." He added: "I'll admit this was our poorest offensive game of the year but maybe their defense had something to do it." The Packers wound up with 69 yards rushing and 112 yards passing for their lowest offensive totals this season. Green Bay reached its low point in the second half - 21 yards rushing, 21 yards passing, 2 first downs, and 2 completions in 15 pass attempts. Compare those with the Packers' total in the first half - 48 yards rushing, 91 yards passing, 7 first downs, and 5 completions in 11 pass attempts. The Giants' offense wasn't much better and that's a compliment to the Packers' defense which hardly could be blamed for 13 points - the two 49-yard field goals by Pat Summerall and the gift touchdown produced by Don McIlhenny's loss of his fumble on the Packer three. The Giants' lone "drive" touchdown was set up by an interference penalty on Alex Webster by Bob Freeman on the Packer 7 at the start of the second half. Chuck Conerly was "picking on" Freeman a good deal of the time, and Hank Gremminger replaced him the next time New York got the ball in hopes that the emphasis would be shifted to some other territory. The Packers came up with their first interception in three games and there was a touch of irony for two reasons: It was made behind the line of scrimmage (by Jim Temp, thanks to a tackle by Bill Forester) and came with only a minute left to play! The Packers couldn't buy a break in Yankee Stadium. The interception just wasn't up for sale! Each team fumbled twice. The Giants, of course, recovered both of theirs; the Packers lost their two. Temp's interception was enjoyed about five seconds. On the next play Jim Taylor fumbled and Sam Huff recovered. Things happened bad "down deep" for the Pack - McIlhenny's lost fumble on the Packer 3, Paul Hornung's field goal bouncing off the right upright, clipping on Em Tunnell on Bobby Dillon's 10-yard runback of a short field goal from the Packer two, and interference on Freemen on the Packer seven. And that was a "down deep" loss for the Packers' head coach, Vince Lombardi, who was playing in the area he called home until he moved to Green Bay last January!


NOV 3 (Milwaukee Journal) - At the halfway point of the NFL season, the Green Bay Packers are half and half with three victories and three defeats. This is better than we anticipated before the season, but not in keeping with the fast start made under the new head man, Vince Lombardi. The team won its first three games and has lost its last three. Lombardi has strengthened the defense and it has played four excellent games. Even in 45-6 and 38-21 defeats by Los Angeles and Baltimore, the defense was generally adequate, but pressure caused by lack of offense finally overwhelmed it. The other half, the offense, has been something else. It has had only two topnotch efforts, against Detroit (28-10) and against San Francisco (21-20). It has scored only 88 points in six games and failed to score a touchdown at all in two games. Only a field goal kept the Packers from being shut out by the Giants in New York Sunday. The score was 2-3. Lombardi evaluated his team's performance Tuesday after he looked at the movies. "Our troubles on offense are general," he said. "We had to throw against the Giants and we couldn't. Lamar McHan has that shoulder injury. He got hurt in the Baltimore game. He can't throw. I hope he'll be ready for the Bears. Joe Francis is inexperienced. With Jim Taylor  back, our running game is better. We need him. I thought he looked good in his few plays against the Giants. He will take some of the pressure off the others, especially Paul Hornung. They have been ganging up on Paul. They can't do that with Taylor in there. We've been especially short of running backs without Taylor. It's been hard on the others. Hornung has looked a bit stale. Our defense played well enough against the Giants to win. The defense did a great job. Their defense, of course, helped make our offense look bad." Lombardi was asked about the punt in the second quarter on which Joe Morrison of the Giants called for a fair catch and then fumbled the ball out of bounds. "None of our men touched it," Lombardi said. "Even if one of us had, the rules say clearly that the defensive team (the Packers, in this case) must gain full control of the ball to take possession. In this case it does not apply because no one from our side touched the ball." Aside from McHan, the Packers are in good physical shape for the Chicago Bears, who will be met in Wrigley Field Sunday. Defensive back Emlen Tunnell had a stiff neck after treating his former teammates rudely with jolting tackles, but there were no other injuries of any consequence.


NOV 3 (Milwaukee Sentinel) - One of the most dejected men in Manhattan Sunday night was Vince Lombardi, who wanted more than anything else to beat the Giants in Yankee Stadium. But Lombardi's Packers displayed their poorest offensive game of the year and dropped a 20-3 verdict to the title-bidding Giants before a standing room crowd of 67,837. The fiery Green Bay taskmaster spoke in unusually quiet tones in his hotel room as he explained his club's third straight loss. "I'll admit this was our poorest offensive game of the year," Lombardi said. "But maybe their defense had something to do with it." As an ex-Giant coach, he knew all of the intricacies of the New York style of play. But the Giants overpowered Lombardi's passers and runners from the start and never stopped pressing. Lombardi admitted he was pretty much in the dumps. For the first time in his life, New York probably felt like a big lonely town. But he refused to take out his feelings on his players. As usual, he blamed no one but himself for defeat No. 3. "I never should have started (Lamar) McHan," Lombardi said. "He had his shoulder bruised against the Colts and I could tell right away that it was affecting his passing." McHan's injury was a top drawer secret. Lombardi didn't want the Giants to know that his top passer was ailing. McHan reported to a doctor Monday when the club arrived in Green Bay. There was no indication whether he would play against the Bears next Sunday at Wrigley Field. Another injury was reported by safetyman Em Tunnell, who turned in a slam-bang game. Tunnell hurt his neck, but it wasn't considered serious. Lombardi, who never coached a losing football team, now faces the gigantic task of getting the Packers on the victory track again. The Bays would dip below the .500 mark by losing to the Bears. There are a few encouraging signs. Fullback Jim Taylor, although fumbling on a sure touchdown run, looks like he's ready to roll after missing four straight games. The defense proved again it was Green Bay's strongest point. It held New York to 80 yards rushing and 144 passing. Linebacker Tom Bettis was a fifth man in the Giants' backfield on numerous occasions. New York quarterback Chuck Conerly was especially annoyed at Bettis. Conerly severely sprained his right ankle which may keep him out of Sunday's game. The 38-year old passer said Bettis was out to get him. The Giants' ace end, Bob Schnelker, came out of the game with a pinched nerve near his spine. It is not a serious injury but may sideline him Sunday. Lombardi is worried about his offense, which has failed to score a touchdown in two of the last three games. The offense has given away too many points via interceptions and fumbles and then finds it too tough playing "catch up". During the winning streak the Bays controlled the ball with a solid running game. Since then, the opposition has caught on fast - especially the Giants, who wrapped themselves around Packer runners before they got started. Taylor's return will help. But the Packers need a psychological lift at this stage of the game - Lombardi should be the man to give it to them.



NOV 4 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - The Packer Alumni Assn. wants the Packers to get off on the right foot in the second half of the 1959 season. The association, the only organization of its kind in the country that meets monthly, will sponsor a sendoff for the Packers when they leave for the Bear game Saturday morning. That was announced today by Alumni President Charley Brock, who worked out details for the program at the group's November meeting Monday night. "We were all pleased with the team in the first half, and we want to start them off right in the second. We asking the public to get out and personally yell the team off to Chicago - just as they helped us in years past." The Packers will leave on the 10:25 from the North Western depot. But a snappy program will start shortly before 10 o'clock. They'll start fireworks (bombing) about 9:30 Saturday morning. The program will include introduction of players, fight talks, music and lots of noise. Fans are urged to bring their own signs and noisemakers...The Packers can make history in Chicago Sunday - history older than some of the players. Green Bay hasn't beaten the Bears twice in the same season since 1935 - some 24 years ago. Billy Butler, Boyd Dowler and Ray Nitschke are only 22, Joe Francis 23, and John Symank and Jim Taylor 24. It's been a generation, seems like! It took a fantastic performance by the greatest player the Packers ever had to produce that "double" in '35. That would be Don Hutson, who in '41 was named one of the 11  players of the first half century by the Associated. Don was a rookie in '35 yet. In the opener in Green Bay, Arnie Herber and Hutson worked a 70-yard pass touchdown play right at the start of the game. It held up for a 7-0 win. In the nightcap at Chicago, Hutson caught two touchdown passes from Herber in the last two minutes to win 17-14. After '35, the Packers had only eight chances for a home and home sweep, meaning the Bays have beaten the Bears just right times in Green Bay since then. In 1939, Green Bay won here 21-16, but lost in Chicago 30-27. In 1944, it was 42-28 Packers here, and a 21-0 headache in Wrigley Field; in 1945, 31-21 Packers here and 28-24 Bears there; in 1947, 29-20 Packers here, 20-17 Bears there; in 1950, 31-21 Packers here, 28-14 Bears there; in 1955, 24-3 Packers here, 52-31 Bears there; in 1957, 21-17 Packers here, 21-14 Bears there. The eighth chance is 1959. The Pack won the opener 9-6 here. What's for Sunday?...Winning in Chicago isn't impossible. The Packers last did it in '52, 41 to 28. That win broke a long, cold spell. The previous Green Bay win in Chicago was in '41, when Green Bay whipped the greatest Bear team in history 16-14...The Bears figure they have the "soft" part of their schedule left. That's the way they were talking after they beat the Rams in Los Angeles Sunday, said Wally Cruice, Packer scout who reported on the Ram-Bear game Tuesday. The Bears undoubtedly consider the Packers one of the "soft" clubs left. Other than Green Bay, the Bears play two with the Lions, and one each with the 49ers, Cards and Steelers. The Bears play the 49ers after the Packers. Wonder if they'll be "looking ahead." Some of the Bears said they might have been looking ahead to the Colts when they lost here in the opener...The Packers moved onto the practice field Tuesday in good order - with one exception, Ray Nitschke, who trailed behind. Ray hurt his knee on a kickoff play and is walking and running with care. Tom Bettis is also hurting. He and Bobby Freeman collided in yesterday's practice and Tom emerged with a stiff neck, but he is expected to be ready for the Bears. Otherwise the squad is in good condition. Lamar McHan, who has a shoulder hurt, eased off his throwing yesterday. Joe Francis and Bart Starr did the pitching.


NOV 4 (Milwaukee Sentinel) - George Halas will never concede the Bears are out of the race. "I still feel the winner in our division is going to have a 7-5 record," Papa Bear said after his pupils throttled the Rams, 26-21, Sunday for their second win of the season. If the Bears lose again, look for him to say 6-6 can win. Halas has it all figured out: "The Rams beat (first place) San Francisco next week because they have better personnel." He also said the Colts may lose their next two games. Meanwhile, the Bears will be entertaining the Packers at Wrigley Field, a gridiron where Green Bay hasn't been victorious since 1952 when the Bays won, 41-28. Vince Lombardi's young crew jumped off to its fine start by decking the Bears, 9-6, in the opener at Green Bay. The Packer did it by holding bruising Rick Casares to 29 yards and flashy Willie Galimore to 28. The Bears were the best team during the exhibition season. They were picked to beat out the Colts for the Western title. Today the Bears are the big mystery of pro football with a 2-4 record. What's hurting the Bears is the surprising loss of their running attack, especially the bad season of Casares. Although he had his best day of the year against the Rams (67 yards), Casares is not among the leading ball carriers this season. Realizing that his employees were losing the ball regularly without a ground attack, Halas went back to the simple T formation at Los Angeles


Sunday. It was so old it seemed new. Here was a formation that Halas used with the Decatur Staleys in 1920. With it the Bears moved the ball well with Casares and Johnny Morris finally seeing daylight. Halas reverted to his regular slot T in the second half and again fooled the Rams. He figured the Rams would set up their defenses for the old model T and he wanted to surprise 'em in the second half. Problems he's got, but never underestimate the acumen of Papa Bear.


NOV 4 (New York) - Boston appeared today to be the leading candidate to receive the eighth and last franchise in the new AFL. Harry Wismer, member of the pro league's expansion committee, conferred with a Boston group headed by Leo Dowd of Nashua, N.H., Tuesday. He said no decision was reached but indicated Boston was the leader so far over interests from Philadelphia, Kansas City, St. Louis, Cincinnati and New Orleans. The franchise vacancies were officially trimmed to one Tuesday when Buffalo officially became the seventh member. Wismer said Ralph C. Wilson, Jr., of Detroit had decided to locate in Buffalo the franchise the AFL awarded him a week ago. The six charter members of the league, which begins operations next fall, are New York, Los Angeles, Dallas, Houston, Denver and Minneapolis-St. Paul...The new league plans to name 500 to 600 of the nation's senior collegiate football stars in its organizational draft Nov. 22-23 in Minneapolis. "Naturally, everybody is going after quarterbacks first," said Max Winter, acting general manager of the Minneapolis-St. Paul entry. "We'll need at least 50 rounds or so to give each club a working roster," Winter said. "Our big inducement in competition with the NFL is that we can just about guarantee a job to the players we draft."


NOV 5 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Numberitis: The Packers ran off 377 plays (rushes and passes) in the first half of the season. The Bears 339! That's practically a tie, but here's the difference: The Packers emphasized the rush, having lugged 209 times against the Bears 169. The Bears passed more than the Pack, 170 (attempts) to 128. There's an old saw in football that says the running game makes he pass click. The Bears haven't been able to run much - until last Sunday, and that might account for their 2-4. The Packers, on the other hand, were among the top rushing clubs in the league until the foes ganged up on Paul Hornung when Jim Taylor was sidelined. Now Taylor's back: Hornung can get some running room, and let's block up front! The Bears, however, found themselves some "lost" ground power and turned it into a 26-21 victory over the Rams in Los Angeles last Sunday. The big key was the fullback, Rick Casares, who rolled up 89 yards. And that was 40 yards more than the Bears gained all day against the Colts in an earlier game. With Casares back on the beam, the Bears likely will try to grind it out. And that's a challenge for our defense which has allowed fewer yards than any club in the league, 1,607. Only two clubs have allowed less yards rushing than the Pack. New York gave up 509 on the ground and Cleveland 674 against the Pack's 735. The Bears allowed 959 on the ground. While the Packers have allowed fewer yards passing than the Bears, 1,045 to 872, the Bear defense has the better percentage of completions, 48.4, against Green Bay's 53.4. On the matter of points, it's interesting to note that both the Packers and Bears have had what might be politely called unhappy quarters in the second half. The Packers have been outscored 55-7 in the six third periods while the Bears have been outpointed 68 to 13 in the fourth frames. Two clubs scored 35 of those 55 on the Pack - two touchdowns by the 49ers and three by the Colts. The Bays' lone TD came on that 81-yard Lamar McHan pass to Max McGee. The Packers were extremely tough in the fourth periods, with the exception of the Ram game when the LAs


counted 24 points. Green Bay allowed only six marks in the composite fourth periods of the other five games. The Pack scored 37 points in the fourth frames and 30 came in the three wins, 9 over the Bears for a 9-6 verdict; 14 on the Lions for a 28-10 win; and 7 on the 49ers for a 21-20 win. Coach Vince Lombardi put the Bays through their crucial Thursday drill on the least-soggy spots on the practice field this morning. The team worked in the Arena Wednesday but the main floor wasn't available today. It was covered by ice.


NOV 5 (Milwaukee Sentinel) - League statistics Wednesday showed that the Packers are the best team in pro football on defense and second from the worst on offense. Vince Lombardi's employees have allowed six opponents 1,607 yards or 268 yards a game. But his scoremakers have been sputtering along with a 277 yard average. Only Detroit has a poorer attack. When Lombardi started his rebuilding job at the Bay he singled out defense as the main weakness. A total of 382 points - high for the NFL - were scored on them in 1958. In search of defensive talent, Lombardi acquired end Bill Quinlan, halfback Bobby Freeman and tackle Henry Jordan from the Browns. He purchased 34-yard old safetyman Emlen Tunnell from the Giants. A rigid conditioning program made holdovers Tom Bettis, Bill Forester, Dan Currie, Nate Borden, Jesse Whittenton, Dave Hanner and Bobby Dillon measure up to his standards. Lombardi believed if his defense was improved, it would be a big psychological aid to the offense. He proved his point when the Packers won four of six preseason games and jumped off to three straight league victories. His offense ranks, though, were thin. He couldn't afford injuries but they came. Fullback Jim Taylor missed four straight games. Minor ailments cut the efficiency of halfback Paul Hornung, Don McIlhenny and quarterback Lamar McHan. With Taylor sidelined, most of the load was placed on the versatile shoulders of Hornung. He became stale with overwork and the opposition ganged up on him. Lombardi said his backfield should be in fairly good shape for the Bears at Chicago Sunday. McHan's shoulder injury seems to have subsided. Taylor, who ran twice with the ball against the Giants, will start. However, if the offense continues to sputter, there will be some changes made and no doubt new faces for next season. Lombardi won't stand pat waiting for it to develop. Rain forced the club indoors at Green Bay Wednesday. The team worked out in the Brown County Arena, home of the Green Bay hockey team. "We skated through our drills," quipped Lombardi. Meanwhile in Chicago, the Bears promised they would give "105 percent" effort against the Packers at Wrigley Field. The Bruins are smarting from a 9-6 setback at Green Bay in September which put them on the road to ruin. Elated by his team's 26-21 conquest of the Rams in the Coliseum, quarterback Ed Brown said, "in six seasons I've been with the club, this is the best season of pass protection I've ever had." According to the way the NFL ranks its passers, Brown is a shade better than McHan, averaging 7.64 yards per attempt.


NOV 5 (Green Bay) - The Packers will get a rousing sendoff Saturday when they entrain to Chicago for their Sunday battle with the Bears. The Packer Alumni Assn., has planned a snappy program at the depot, starting with fireworks at 9:30 a.m. The program will include introduction of players, fight songs and cheers. Green Bay defeated the Bears, 9-6, in the league opener but hasn't beaten the Bruins twice in the same season since 1935.



NOV 6 (Dallas) - The NFL, through its expansion chairman, George Halas, has made overtures toward the new AFL, according to Lamar Hunt, founder of the AFL. The AFL through Hunt has made overtures toward the NFL, according to Halas. In each instance, it appears the other side got turned down. It all started Monday, when Hunt, K.S. (Bud) Adams, owner of the AFL Houston franchise, and Bob Howsam, owner of Denver, met with Halas in Chicago. Hunt said Halas made the suggestion that Dallas and Houston be added to the NFL next year, and Minneapolis and Buffalo in 1961. That obviously would wipe out the AFL since only Los Angeles, New York and Denver would be left of the original membership. At Boston Thursday night, it was announced by Harry Wismer, chairman of the AFL Expansion Committee, that the city was in line to receive the eighth franchise. So Boston would also be among those out of the AFL should the merger come about. Hunt said Thursday "we turned it down but decided that the other members of the league should be asked if they wanted to accept the suggestion." He added that he had talked to all except Minneapolis and none of the franchise holders wanted to accept. Hunt did say that he might favor merger with the NFL if all of the AFL clubs were admitted "since that would in fact be creating two leagues." Then from Chicago Thursday night came a statement from Halas that he had turned down a suggestion that the NFL take in six teams of the AFL. Halas said Hunt telephoned him. "I told him that was too many." Recently Halas had announced that Dallas and Houston would be admitted to the NFL, thus furnishing competition for the AFL clubs owned by Hunt and Adams. Houston, however, would have to obtain a suitable stadium. Halas added that his best suggestion "at this time is that the AFL go forward as an eight-team league."


NOV 6 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - The Packer offense - limited to 30 points in their last three games - was tested on something strange today, a dry field!


It was the third different practice area in three days. Heavy snow and rain forced the Bays inside the Arena Wednesday. New ice on the Arena cement forced the Packers onto their water-covered practice field on Oneida St. Thursday. Today, the tarpaulin was peeled off the City Stadium floor and, behold, the grass was green and the turf was dry and firm. A city crew, called upon to assist, had some difficulty  in removing the sprawling tarpaulin because of the heavy snow accumulation. Eventually two sections were removed, Packer coaches taking a hand here to help the workmen. One workman, Martin Owinski, was injured in the process. Slipping as he pulled on the tarpaulin, he injured his right leg and was carried from the field on a stretcher to the Packer dressing room, where he was treated by Packer Trainer Bud Jorgensen. Packer Coach Vince Lombardi's big objective this week is to soup up the club's offense, which has produced three field goals and three touchdowns in the last three games. The three TDs came at the expense of the Colts. Two field goals were booted at the Rams; one at the Giants. Offensing against the Bears (in Chicago Sunday) is never easy, and it's noteworthy that the Bruins have allowed the second fewest number of points, 120, in the Western Division. The 49ers, who lost their only game to Green Bay, gave up only 72. The Packers' chances of coming up with an offensive explosion Sunday depend considerably on the shoulder condition of Lamar McHan, the quarterback who was handicapped vs. the Giants last Sunday. McHan has been receiving special treatment all week, and he has been throwing better. The former Cardinal would like nothing better than to be in sharp shape Sunday. He's going "home" to battle the Cards' and the Packers' most hated opponent right in the own backyard! Actually, the Packer offense has improved considerably since that 9-6 Packer victory over the Bears here last Sept. 27. Offenses aren't made overnight - or over one exhibition season, but the intricate machinery that makes a team score has shown many signs of running smoothly this season. Lombardi has placed a strong emphasis on offense this week. And things are looking up because one of his key men, Jim Taylor, is in good running condition. The Bay offense suffered badly by his loss because defenses, for the most part, ganged up on Paul Hornung. With Taylor back, the rest is up to the Pack's offensive line. The Bears have been nicked for an average of 20 points in the first six games. The Packers expect to exceed that barrier. The Packers got the feel of a good defensive game in the loss in New York and they're due to come up with another similar performance. The fiery defenders are in good physical condition, although there are two stiff neck cases - Em Tunnell, who picked up his in New York, and Tom Bettis, who was hurt in a collision with Bob Freeman in practice. Safety aide Johnny Symank is nursing a broken nose but he added an extra bar to the mask part of his helmet "and that should prevent any more trouble." Symank got an elbow in the nose on the opening kickoff Sunday while blocking for Billy Butler. "I put it in place on the sidelines," Symank said the other day, feeling of his twisted snoot...And speaking of defense, the Bears have added four-year veteran safetyman Stan Wallace, who sat out the first half of the season because of contract trouble. He reported in slightly over his playing weight of 205. Wallace joins Erich Barnes, Richie Petitbon, J.C. Caroline, Charley Sumner and Pete Johnson in the secondary. The Bears figure to go with Sumner and Petitbon at safety and Barnes and Caroline at the corners, although these four can be easily switched...The Packers will leave for Chicago on the 10:25 North Western Saturday morning. A sendoff is scheduled by the Packer Alumni Assn. at the depot at 9:45. The team will fly back for the first time in the club's history, leaving O'Hare Field at 6 o'clock Sunday evening in a chartered United Airlines plane and arriving home at 7 o'clock. The Bays will drill at Wrigley Field Saturday afternoon. They will headquarter at the Sheraton Towers Hotel...The Packer Lumberjack Band, under Wilner Burke's baton, will lend the team support in Chicago, going down by bus Sunday morning and returning right after the game. Expenses are being shared by the Packers and Schneider-


Allied Van Lines.


NOV 6 (Milwaukee Journal) - "We'll have to pick up offensively if we're going to beat them," Vince Lombardi, Green Bay coach, said Friday. His Packers will meet the Chicago Bears at Wrigley Field Sunday in the 82nd meeting of the two NFL rivals. "Our offense was a dud in New York last Sunday and against the Rams in Milwaukee. We did some good things at Baltimore in between, but we made some mistakes, too." The Packers have lost three straight games after winning their first three. Still, at .500 they are a game ahead of the Bears and Los Angeles and two ahead of Detroit. To protect themselves from the second division and to keep from slipping too far behind first place San Francisco and second place Baltimore, the Packers will have to bounce back against the Bears. The handicappers do not think they will. The Bears are rated solid favorites. "The Bears were a great football team before the league season," Lombardi said. "Don't get me wrong, they probably still are, but for some reason they didn't score in their early games. They started the way we're going now. They seem to be coming out of it now. They figure they've got the worst part of their schedule out of the way and that they can finish up strong for a respectable record." The Bears played Baltimore and Los Angeles twice each in the first half of the season. George Halas' men also lost to Green Bay in the opener, 9-6, and at San Francisco, 20-17, on a long pass by the 49ers with a minute to go. "They (the Bears) played a lot better in their two games on the coast," Scout Wally Cruice said. "They went back to the regular T formation in the first half against the Rams and ran with power. They'll be tough to stop now. They ran well in the second half, too, off the inside slot T. They used three running backs - Rick Casares, Merrill Douglas and Johnny Morris - with Willie Galimore  coming in for spot duty. Their ends were Bill McColl and Willard Dewveall, both rugged blockers. They really moved on the ground. Zeke Bratkowski was at quarterback the first half and Ed Brown the second. Both looked better than they had. Jim Dooley was used as a messenger and was the man in motion on pass plays. Harlon Hill didn't play at Los Angeles because of a bum leg, but he should be ready for the Packers." Green Bay's defense, then, will get a stern test. "The Bears have a long range threat in Galimore and their speedy ends," Cruice said. "That's where they have the edge." Chicago's defense has always been solid. The Bears still gamble and shift a lot, apparently with good effort. They have lost four men for the season through injury - offensive center Larry Strickland and defensive halfbacks Vic Zucco and Jack Johnson and linebacker Chuck Howley. Stan Wallace, who retired in an argument over salary, agreed to come back Thursday and take Johnson's place. He may not be ready to play against the Packers, however. The defensive aces are still healthy, though. Linebackers Bill George and Joe Fortunato and linemen Doug Atkins and Fred Williams, among others, will seek to put furious pressure of Packer quarterback Lamar McHan and his runners.



NOV 7 (Chicago-Green Bay Press-Gazette) - The Packers are finding gold in the big towns - Baltimore, New York and Chicago. Given a sellout of 49,000 for the Bear battle Sunday, the Packers will have drawn a total of 174,388 in-the-flesh paying customers in their current three-game road trip. A sellout of 57,557 turned out in Baltimore and a standing room crowd of 67,831 saw the big fuss in New York's Yankee Stadium last Sunday. The three games average out to 58,129! Millions saw the two big Eastern games on television - on the Colt, Giant and Packer networks. As one scribe wrote in a New York paper, "it's a crime the Giants are at home; only 67,000 can see them in Yankee Stadium; when they're away, 3,000,000 see them in New York." That's true here, too. More people in Packerland "saw" the Packers play in Baltimore and New York on TV that will attend games in Green Bay in the next five years. Four games here will pull around 125,000 a year. The Bays' TV audience is about a million. Television will never replace the actual thrill of being at a game or the wide-scope view from the stands, but the "tube" is a pretty good facsimile. Enough to whet your appetite enough to make a trip down to the Packer ticket office - a year in advance!...In our account of the Packers' loss to the Giants (20-3), we remarked that the Bays didn't get a break all day. That wasn't all "hometown." Joe King, in his story in the NY World Telegram, included this: "The Giants could call it a lucky game because they got all the breaks. Paul Hornung's 14-yard field goal try at 10-3 hit an upright. The Giant rookie kick receivers staged another orgy of fumbles, George Scott twice, Joe Morrison once, but the Packers didn't recover any."...This came from a Giant play after Sunday's game: "Before we went out to play, the coach (Jim Lee Howell) told us to play our best because we were 'playing against the coach who made you.'" The Giant organization thinks a lot of Vince and we got the feeling that the Giants felt it was a giant accomplishment beating Vince's team. Hope the Giants play in Green Bay next year!...What's with Bobby Dillon? Only one interception? He usually has five or six at this stage of the game. "I feel good - better than ever, in fact," Bobby said the other day, adding: "I think I've been in the right place, but I've dropped one interception that I should have had. The coaching is excellent, and I guess it's just one of those things. None of us had too many chances to intercept. I guess maybe the quarterbacks are being more careful and I don't think they're throwing as much either." Em Tunnell, Dillon's partner at safety, said, "We're not trying for too many interceptions because most of the games have been close. We don't want to gamble on the receiver getting behind us when it's a tight game."...The Browns were nicked for 113 yards in penalties in their 38-31 victory over the Colts last Sunday. Incidentally, former Packer Billy Howton caught three passes for 57 yards for the Browns. Jimmy Brown, the Browns' great fullback, told a Baltimore scribe Sunday night that "we take great pride in our speed. We saw films of the Colts-Green Bay game and when we saw Max McGee outrun Ray Brown on that 80-yard pass play we really felt good. We figured that Brown was the fastest in the Colts defense and if McGee would outrun him then so could we."...Lion President Ed Anderson, in an interview the other day, said: "We hope to make a trade for a proven quarterback for next year. We can afford to give up players who are capable of performing but are not playing their best for us. We hope to have a commitment on a trade for a proven quarterback by the time of the draft (Nov. 30)." The next day in the Lion clubhouse, quarterbacks Tobin Rote and Earl Morrall were both "shook up," according to a Detroit Time story. "They must be bring in Sam (The Rifleman) Etcheverry from Canada," one player cried. Incidentally, Rote will start against Bobby Layne and the Steelers Sunday...Things aren't pleasant in Los Angeles and owners of the Rams and the fans are unhappy with the club's 2-4 record. Said


Dan Reeves, president: "Taking it out on the coach (Sid Gillman) is only natural. He's always the whipping boy. The coach takes the bows when the team wins; he takes the abuse when it loses. But I'm a golfer. I never believe in changing my game in the middle of my back swing."...The Packers are one of the three surprises in the NFL this season. Joining them are the 49ers and Eagles. They have all improved two games or better over a year ago at this time. After six games in 1958, the Packers had a 1-4-1 record, the Eagles 1-4-1 and the 49ers 3-3. Green Bay now has 3-3, the Eagles 4-2, and the 49ers 5-1.


NOV 7 (Chicago-Green Bay Press-Gazette) - This could be one of the great Packer-Bear games! At least it's the biggest combined "must-win" battle the two clubs have engaged in for years! The Packers have a 3-3 record; they're still very much in the Western Division championship running. The Bears have 2-4 and they figure the eventual champ will lost four and maybe five. The explosion will be set off in Wrigley Field, starting at 1:05 Sunday afternoon. A sellout crowd of around 49,000 will watch the 82nd game between pro football's oldest and bitterest rivals. It's tough for anybody to beat the Bears on their home turf and the Bruins don't lose many games there - especially to Green Bay. The Packers won two games there since 1941, an 18-game stretch. The experts don't give the Packers much chance of winning. The Bears are favored by some seven points - just as they were in the opener in Green Bay Sept. 27. Green Bay won 9-6 in a big surprise. The Packers hope to come up with a surprise Sunday - a scoring offense. They were held without a touchdown in two of their last three games. Green Bay's chances rest on the good right arm, and shoulder, of quarterback Lamar McHan, the former Cardinal who is an old Bear hater. McHan has been bothered by a shoulder injury and his passing has been off. He displayed some improvement this week and could be in top form tomorrow. The game will make the "return" of fullback Jim Taylor, who missed Games 3, 4 and 5 and played in only a few plays of Game 6 due to a home accident. Taylor gained 98 yards in 22 attempts in the first Bear game and his running is expected to "open up" the rest of the Packer backfield, meaning Paul Hornung, Don McIlhenny and Lew Carpenter. Since the Pack's aerial success depends so much on the club's running and since the Bears rushed brilliantly in beating the Rams last Sunday, the game is expected to develop into a running march. Rick Casares rolled up 80 yards vs. LA. Watch him! Both teams, however, have the good air arm, with McHan hurling to Max McGee, Gary Knafelc and Boyd Dowler and Ed Brown to Harlon Hill, Bill McColl, Jim Dooley and a host of others. The Packers' major hope will be a fierce performance by the offensive line, which would be a "comeback" from a week ago when the Bays gained only 69 yards rushing and 112 passing against the Giants. Packer Coach Vince Lombardi is expecting the Packer defense to come up with another bell ringer - a must if the Bears are to be beaten. The defense unit has two stiff neck cases - Tom Bettis and Em Tunnell, but both will be ready. Ray Nitschke has a wobbly knee. Playing in his home state, Nitschke probably will be like new Sunday. The club's fifth linebacker incidentally is Ken Beck...WALLACE RETURNEE: The Packers defensers will probably look at Brown as the first Bear quarterback. Zeke Bratkowski started in the opener in Green Bay and was the losing pitcher, though Brown finished. In the exhibition starter in Milwaukee, Brown started and Bratkowski won it in the last few seconds. Rudy Bukich is the Bears' third QB. The Bears likely will make little use of returnee Stan Wallace unless he had been working out on his own. Wallace, a four-year veteran defensive back, was a holdout during the first half of the season. The Packers are staying at the Sheraton Towers hotel. They'll fly back to Green Bay after the game, landing at Austin Straubel Field shortly before 7 o'clock Sunday night.

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