Preseason: St. Louis Cardinals 20, Green Bay Packers 7
Saturday August 8th 1964 (at New Orleans)
GAME RECAP (GREEN BAY PRESS-GAZETTE)
(NEW ORLEANS) - The Packers couldn't get their offense going in the Sugar Bowl Saturday night and the Cardinals took advantage of the surprising situation to score a 20 to 7 victory in the preseason opener for both teams. The Cardinals scored 13 points on the Pack's offensive misfires and added the other on a 62-yard drive. St. Louis scored its first victory in history over Green Bay, got off to a 6-0 lead in the second quarter on 24 and 37-yard field goals by Jim Bakken. They were set up by an interception of a Bart Starr pass and recovery of a fumble by Paul Hornung. The Packers took a 7-6 halftime lead on a 71-yard, 13-play drive, with Starr passing to Ron Kramer for the touchdown.
WOBBLY PASS WAYLAID
The Cardinals took a permanent lead in the third quarter with two touchdowns in less than eight minutes. Pat Fischer returned a wobbly Starr pass (his arm was hit) 74 yards for a touchdown and the drive followed, with Charley Johnson scoring from a yard out. The Packers experimented considerably with different player combinations and Zeke Bratkowski finished out the game at quarterback after the Cards took their final lead. The Bays were limited to two first downs after Fischer's return. The two teams traded threats right at the start. The Packers, who received, put together two first downs - one on Starr's 24-yard pass to Kramer - but the attack stalled around the Cardinal 26 and Hornung's field goal from the 33 was wide to the left. The Cards added up three first downs, reaching the Packer 44, but then Hank Gremminger recovered Joe Childress' fumble on the Bay 30. The Packers made three mistakes and the Cardinals converted them into two field goals. Starr's pass flew off Kramer's hands and Jerry Stovall intercepted on the 50 and returned to the Packer 28. Five plays later Bakken hit. He kicked a 24-yard field goal at 13:15 of the first quarter to put the Cards ahead 3-0. The Bays slammed back for a first down on running by Hornung and Taylor but on the first play of the second quarter Hornung fumbled and Wilson recovered on the 50. The third error came four plays later when Jess Whittenton was called for interference on Johnson's pass to Randle on the Packer 25. Thanks to Lee Roy Caffey throwing Johnson for a 14-yard loss, the Cardinals had to settle for a field goal, Bakken hitting from 37 for a 6-0 lead with 3:50 gone in the second frame. Rookie John Baker plus Caffey and Ron Kostelnik played considerable in the early going and the first changes were made with Frank Mestnik and Tom Moore replacing Hornung and Taylor. Starr also unlimbered his arm and the Packers marched to the only TD of the first half. Bart hurled to McGee for 18 yards and then made a key first down with a seven-yard run when his receivers were covered, reaching the 15. Bart then hurled to Dowler for 14 and Moore and Mestnik covered 11 yards in two tries to the 25. On two third straight third down plays, Starr threw to Kramer for 13 to the 10 and then again to Kramer in the end zone for the score. Hornung converted at 13:15 and the Bays led 7-6. Just before the half, Hank Jordan threw Johnson for a 9-yard loss on a key third down play, and Willie Wood made a sparkling zig zag 41-yard punt return. Zeke Bratkowski took over at quarterback with Bob Long, Marv Fleming, Elijah Pitts, Mestnik and Moore at flanker but there was no movement. The Packers exploded to start the second half but it backfired into a Cardinal lead. After the Cardinals were forced to punt to the Packers, Starr threw to Dowler for 13, including a lateral to McGee. Taylor made two and then Starr, unable to pass, ran 11 to the Card 40. Hornung zipped 17 yards up the middle to the 23, almost breaking away. Two plays later Starr attempted to pass to Hornung to the right but linebacker Marion Rushing hit Starr's arm and the ball flew up for grabs. Pat Fischer took it in front of Hornung and raced 74 yards to a TD with 6:15 gone in the quarter. Bakken converted and it was 13-7. The Cards held the Pack and went on a 62-yard touchdown drive. Johnson's passing ate up most of the ground. He threw to Randle for 16, Smith for 16 and Childress for 15, reaching the four. On third down Johnson bumped over a short yard for the TD. Bakken converted and it was 20-7 at 13:50 of the third period. The Bays charged back, with Pitts at left half for Hornung, reaching the Card 40 as the period ended. The Packer attack bogged down when Starr was thrown back five trying to pass and then lost 13 on a screen pass to Taylor in the fourth quarter. After Norton and Stovall traded punts, Bratkowski took a crew of newcomers into the fray but a 2-yard gain and a 49-yard punt by Norton was the net result. The Cards had to punt after making a first down and Bratkowski's team managed a first down on Brat's pass to Pitts and a short run by Dwain Bean. Don Brumm threw Bratkowski for a 16-yard loss and Norton soon had to punt. Buddy Humphrey, like Bratkowski an ex-Ram QB, took over the Cards and moved them to midfield with a 23-yard pass to Billy Gambrell. In a parting shot, Bratkowski threw 9 yards to Fleming and Pitts ran five for a first down. The game ended shortly thereafter.
GREEN BAY - 0 0 7 0 - 7
ST. LOUIS - 3 3 14 0 - 20
GREEN BAY ST. LOUIS
First Downs 17 15
Rushing-Yards-TD 28-123-0 32-115-1
Att-Comp-Yd-TD-Int 23-14-125-1-2 19-10-144-0-0
Sack Yards Lost 30 24
Net Passing Yards 95 120
Total Yards 218 235
Fumbles-lost 2-1 1-1
Turnovers 3 1
Yards penalized 1-13 4-34
SCORING
1st - STL - Jim Bakken, 24-yard field goal ST. LOUIS 3-0
2nd - STL - Bakken, 37-yard field goal ST. LOUIS 6-0
2nd - GB - Ron Kramer, 10-yard pass from Bart Starr (Paul Hornung kick) GREEN BAY 7-6
3rd - STL - Pat Fischer, 74-yard interception return (Bakken kick) ST. LOUIS 13-7
3rd - STL - Charley Johnson, 1-yard run (Bakken kick) ST. LOUIS 20-7
RUSHING
GREEN BAY - Paul Hornung 5-34, Jim Taylor 8-27, Bart Starr 3-18, Elijah Pitts 2-16, Tom Moore 5-13, Frank Mestnik 3-8, Dwain Bean 2-7
ST. LOUIS - Joe Childress 13-61, Bob Paremore 8-28, Bill Thornton 4-14, Prentice Gautt 6-11, Charley Johnson 1-1 1 TD
PASSING
GREEN BAY - Bart Starr 15-9-84 1 TD 2 INT, Zeke Bratkowski 10-5-41
ST. LOUIS - Charley Johnson 17-9-130, Buddy Humphrey 2-1-14
RECEIVING
GREEN BAY - Ron Kramer 3-48 1 TD, Boyd Dowler 3-34, Elijah Pitts 3-28, Marv Fleming 2-13, Jim Taylor 2-(-16), Max McGee 1-18
ST. LOUIS - Bobby Joe Conrad 4-47, Jackie Smith 2-24, Joe Childress 1-35, Sonny Randle 1-16, Billy Gambrell 1-14, Bill Thornton 1-8
HORNUNG'S MOTHER HAS BUTTERFLIES BEFORE PAUL'S DEBUT
AUG 9 (New Orleans-Green Bay Press-Gazette) - There was a happy little lady in the coffee shop of the Hilton Inn Saturday morning. "But," confessed Mrs. Loretta Hornung, "I've got butterflies. I never got this way before an exhibition game." To put it extremely on the mild side, Paul Hornung's mother is proud and thrilled over the comeback of her son. "I've been reading about him every day in your paper and I just couldn't wait to see him play. I had planned to see him in the Bishop's game next week, but this chance came up and I had to come down here," she said, adding: "When I got here last night, I turned on the TV set and I just saw his legs on some pictures of the intra-squad game. I thought they were his, anyway, but they might have been Jimmy's." Loretta was a heart-broken but forgiving mother that night in April of 1962 when Paul was suspended by Commissioner Pete Rozelle. Like Paul, she was quick to face up to his wrong and took the punishment in good faith. "It was a hard season. Paul is no spectator, you know, and he suffered through those games more because he knew all the plays and the players." Paul and his mother had a happy reunion Friday night and "the first thing he had to show me was the way he had lost weight. He could pull his belt in so tightly. He looks real trim and I've been reading that he's faster than ever." Mrs. Hornung said she was "pleased with the way everybody has been. The fans have been so kind and Paul feels the same way." The little lady from Louisville went through a long Saturday. Waiting to see her son back in his Packer uniform Saturday night...Em Tunnell, the Giant immortal who closed out his career with Green Bay, went to the Packer dressing room before the game to wish Hornung "good luck." Now a Giant scout and looking over the Pack for next Saturday's night Bishop's Charities game, Tunnell said "everybody in the league is pulling for Hornung to make good." What about the Giants? "We can win it again if Tittle stays healthy."...Perfect weather greeted the huge crowd despite rain during most of the day. It was a cool 75. The stadium was darkened and each starting player was introduced under a huge spotlight...The Sugar Bowl was integrated for the first time in history. Negroes sat with the whites, which down here is quite a departure...The Packers were the home team and wore their dark jerseys. The largest pregame ovations were saved for hometown boys Max McGee, Jim Taylor, Jerry Stovall - plus that feeler from Louisville, Hornung...More than 500 fans turned out for the Packers' warm-up drill in the Sugar Bowl Friday afternoon. The affair was billed as a public practice and despite 90 degree heat, with matching humidity, the fans at times left their seats and crowded around the sidelines to get a closer look. Among the viewers were Johnny Symank, the former Packer defensive back, and his four children. Symank is now coaching at Tulane University. The Packers "scouted" the College All Star game Friday night and the feeling was the Packer draftee, Lloyd Voss, did a good job in the Stars' offensive line.
PACK GREETS 5 'STARS, CUT 6; GIANTS NEXT
AUG 10 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - The Packers welcomed five new players today, bid goodbye to six rookies, and started preparations for a "comeback" against the Giants in City Stadium Saturday night. Joining the squad were the five College All Stars - tackle Lloyd Voss, the Pack's first draft choice; center Ken Bowman; linebacker-fullback Tommy Crutcher; defensive back Duke Carlisle and halfback-quarterback Dennis Claridge. Coach Vince Lombardi announced that waivers were asked on the following: center-guard Dave Crossan, ends Gary Kroner and Tom O'Grady, and defensive backs Larry Hunter, Joe Scarpati and Beau Carter. Kroner, former Wisconsin and Premontre star, was on the Pack's cab squad last year. He had been working as a flanker and kicker. The team is now composed of 34 veterans and 14 rookies, including Doug Hart, who was on the cab squad last year. The first mandatory cutdown is Aug. 25 when NFL clubs must be down to 45. The upcoming Bishop's Charities game offers the Packers an opportunity to return to their winning stride, coming as it does on the heels of a surprise 20 to 7 defeat at the hands of the Cardinals in New Orleans Saturday night. The Packers weren't particularly impressive and the show turned out to quite a shocker since the Bays had made quite a habit of winning. This was only the third preseason loss the Packers suffered since Lombardi took over in 1959 - and the first since his initial year. Vince was able to smile after the game Saturday night and, after analyzing the game. he noted that this is nothing to get panicky about. Lombardi stated flatly that "we didn't do anything on defense and the offense wasn't much better - they controlled the ball on us. We couldn't get anything going." The coach added that "we changed a lot - the defense was rotated right from the start." This thought, of course, pinpointed the Packers' approach to this particular game. Many different combinations were used and players were switched freely. As an example, rookie defensive end John Baker got his feet wet on the second series of the night. And veteran Dave Hanner, who is embarking on his 13th season, watched the entire show from the bench. Tom Moore played some flanker and despite all the fanfare given the Pack's one-two punch of Paul Hornung and Jim Taylor the Bays' only touchdown came on a drive with Moore and Frank Mestnik at the running backs. Bart Starr included himself among the "running" backs when he scampered seven yards on a
and Frank Mestnik at the running backs. Bart Starr included himself among the "running" backs when he scampered seven yards on a third and four situation - on a play that started out as pass, for a key first down in the 71-yard, 13-play drive. Starr completed four passes along the way, including the payoff pitch to Ron Kramer for 10 yards. While the drive was a sort of life-saver, the Packers had the ball three times before the TD and lost it this way: (1) Hornung's missed field goal from the 33, (2) an interception of a Starr pass off Kramer's hands by Jerry Stovall and (3) Hornung's fumble. The Packers put on one advance after their touchdown. Starting on their own 34 with a 7-6 lead early in the second half, the Bays drove toward a TD with three first downs. But the drive met an ill-fated ending. Starr's arm was hit just as he threw and the ball went into the air toward Hornung like a wounded duck. Hornung was in the process of turning around when Fischer, who had a better view of the "duck," came in like a shot, grabbed the ball in front of Paul, and went off to the races. The Bays made two first downs the rest of the way and a Cardinal holding penalty provided one of those. The Cardinals followed their TD with a 62-yard drive for a 20-7 lead. The Cardinals made no changes until late in the game. They were taking no chances with rookies. This was a must win game for them.
PACKERS INSTALL BROWN, ALL-STAR VOSS AT DEFENSE
AUG 11 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - The Packers five College All Stars reported for active professional football duty Monday. And three of them wound up on defense, including first draft choice Lloyd Voss, who originally was ticketed for the offensive line. Voss, one of two University of Nebraskans in the group. was stationed at defensive right end and while his college teammate, Dennis Claridge, stepped in as the third quarterback behind Bart Starr and Zeke Bratkowski. Duke Carlisle, a QB and defense star at Texas, is trying his hand at left safety while Tommy Crutcher, the TCU fullback and linebacker, is at right linebacker. Ken Bowman, the Wisconsin center, is located at that position in competition with veteran Bob Skoronski and rookie Turnley Todd, who was switched over from linebacker. With the departure of six rookies on waivers Monday, one switch was made. Tom Brown, who had been working as a flanker, was moved to right corner on defense. The squad was reduced to 48 players Monday with the waiving of center Dave Crossan, defense backs Joe Scarpati, Larry Hunter, and Beau Carter, and ends Gary Kroner and Tom O'Grady. However, today, the figure went up to 49 when Coach Vince Lombardi announced that waivers had been recalled on O'Grady, the end from Northwestern. Voss had the big job of keeping out the Bears' big Doug Atkins (6-8 and 280) in the All Star game. And, like Lloyd said: "He went by me like a shot a couple of times and once he knocked me over and my feet went straight up in the air. His arms are so long it's hard to get at him." While Voss had his problems with Atkins, Lloyd still felt "we should have won. If we could have scored down there from the four-yard line late in the game, it might have been different. They (the Bears) were good, but we had a good chance to beat them."...GET READY FOR GAME: Voss is playing defensive end for the first time in his career. He had worked at offensive and defensive tackle at Nebraska. The Bays now have eight defensive linemen - Dave Hanner, Hank Jordan, Willie Davis, Lionel Aldridge, Urban Henry, Ron Kostelnik and John Baker. The Packers are getting ready this week for the Bishop's Charities game vs. the Giants in City Stadium Saturday night...Bob Skoronski, making his debut at center, didn't have a miss-snap all night against the Cardinals at New Orleans. He had 52 snaps to the quarterback and others for five punts, one field goal and one point after. "Maybe that's too good a start." Bob laughed yesterday. "Now I have to live up to it."...Bob Long, the Packers' rookie receiver from Wichita, found his pro baptism rather interesting. "This was only my eighth football game," said Long, "and I looked over at Bean one time and said, 'What am I doing here?' I can catch the ball okay but there are so many things to learn." Long is the basketball star who went out for football as a senior at Wichita and made such a hit as a gridder the Packers drafted him No. 4...BRIEFS: The starting offensive lineup of the Eagles Saturday night contained four former Packers - Tommy Brown, Earl Gros, Ed Blaine and Jim Ringo...The Lions have started selling tickets for close-circuit TV presentations of four of their eight home games, including the Packer visit Sept. 28. The games will be tubed in three theaters and prices are $5 per seat per game...Willie Wood led the Packers in tackling Cardinals the other night with 10 tackles, including 8 unassisted, according to figures kept by New Orleans statisticians. Willie Davis, Dave Robin and Hank Gremminger were credited with 7 each. Dale Meinert led the Cardinals with 10.
QB RUSH WON FOR CARDINALS: LEMM
AUG 11 (Lake Forest, IL) - Pleased with their opening game victory over the Green Bay Packers, the St. Louis football Cardinals returned to work here Monday preparing to meet the Minnesota Vikings in their next preseason game Saturday night in Atlanta. Head Coach Wally Lemm praised the team's defensive effort that helped stop the Packers 20-7. "We put a fine rush on their quarterbacks," he said. The team came out of the game with only one injuree, a bruised calf suffered by receiver Bobby Joe Conrad. It is expected to sideline him a few days.
3 GIANTS SIDELINED
AUG 11 (Fairfield, CN) - The New York Giants said Monday flanker back Frank Gifford and ends Del Shofner and Aaron Thomas are sidelined with pulled leg muscles. Each is likely to miss Saturday's NFL exhibition game against the Green Bay Packers. The three suffered the injuries in Saturday's game with the Minnesota Vikings.
MORRIS JOINS PATS
AUG 11 (Andover, MA) - Rookie Jon Morris, the highest draft choice signed by the Boston Patriots, reported to the AFL team's training camp for the first time Monday. Morris was told by Coach Mike Holovak he would have to battle Bob Dentel for the offensive center berth. The former Holy Cross player, and the Patriots' No. 3 draft choice, reported in at 238 pounds, 15 pounds over his collegiate playing weight. Morris also was drafted by the Green Bay Packers. Dentel, a former Miami, Fl., center who played in the United League last fall, was used at both center and tackle against Houston in an exhibition Sunday. Holovak plans to keep Dentel at center with veteran pivot Bob Yates moving into a tackle slot.
POINT BARRAGE? PACK, GIANTS UNEASY
AUG 12 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - The Packers and Giants are undergoing the same uneasiness this week. Since they're both losers. We have no pipeline to Fairfield, Conn., where the New Yorks are training, but it can be stated without feat of contradiction (sounds like a political warmup) that the Giants are twitchin' and frettin' a bit these days - just like the Packers. New York and Green Bay approach the Bishop's Charities game at City Stadium Saturday night with another similarity: They each scored seven points in their openers. The Giants lost to Minnesota 21-7 and the Packers dropped a 20-7 verdict to St. Louis. The manner in which the two normally high scoring team made their TD's was different, however. And here's an edge for our side. The Giants got their TD on a 108-yard kickoff return by Clarence Childs. Which means that their offense was shut out. The Packer offense did a lot of moving, missed a field goal, and scored the one TD on a nifty 71-yard, 13-play drive which featured the running of Frank Mestnik, Tom Moore and Bart Starr, the passing of Starr and the receiving of Max McGee, Boyd Dowler and Ron Kramer, who scored the touch. It follows in this seventh paragraph that the two teams will bounce back with a barrage of points Saturday night. And don't forget the adding machine in the press box, Tom. Both teams did considerable testing of various player combinations in their openers and, while this will continue Saturday night, the emphasis may be shifted a "slight" bit to the regular lineups. This is post-All Star week around the league and just about all of the clubs face the problem of working the late-reporting All Stars into practice. The Packers have five All Stars and they're three weeks behind in absorbing Coach Vince Lombardi's process. Working double time in catch up are Stars Dennis Claridge, Lloyd Voss, Duke Carlisle, Tommy Crutcher and Ken Bowman. They may see limited action against the Giants. Voss is playing at defense end, Bowman at center, Claridge at quarterback, Carlisle at safety and Crutcher at linebacker...BRIEFS: Defensive tackles Dave Hanner and Ron Kostelnik are roomies and, though they play the same position, they are 10 years apart in age. Kostelnik is 24, Hanner 34. Ron is starting his fourth season, Hanner his 13th...Big Town in Tuesday - Don Smith, the Giants' publicist; Bill Heinz, the writer who turned TV'er briefly for a network show on the Pack; and Jack Hand, the AP's pro football writer who is doing a series on each club in the NFL and AFL. The Giants are due in Friday...Lake Band of Milwaukee, featuring more than 100 young musicians aged 14 to 18, will provide the halftime entertainment Saturday night...Bill Brown, the Illinois product who started his career with the Bears, led the Vikings against the Giants with 85 yards in 16 carries. The Vikings' home-grown Tommy Mason had 50 in 10. Coach Norm Van Brocklin went all the way with his regular team against the Giants.
AIR RAID: Y.A. TITTLE TO START FOR GIANTS
AUG 13 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Y.A. Tittle will start against the Packers Saturday night. And, after reading another couple of chapters of his book, "I Pass," last night, it can be deducted that the old master will be throwing the football around City Stadium with great frequency. News that Coach Allie Sherman will start his balding ace was relayed here today by Don Smith, the Giants' publicity man who added that Y.A. will work "a quarter, maybe a half - until he gets loosened up or until he feels he's had enough." Tittle is a bit different than young fellers like Bart Starr, John Unitas and others. Yats is in the upper 30s, approaching 38, and it takes a bit longer to get the old soupbone warmed up. In addition, Sherman wants to get a good look at his No. 2 flinger, Master Glynn Griffing, the 23-year old sophomore. Griffing will replace Tittle and will be getting his first test this year. Griffing did not play in the opening 21-7 loss to the Vikings last Saturday. The job of following Title was given to rookie Henry Schichtle. At Minnesota, Schichtle, incidentally, was Packer Bob Long's batterymate at Wichita last year. The Giants have one of those quick-armed passers like George Mira on their roster and he may play a bit. This is Gary Wood, a 5-11, 188-pound grad of Cornell. Wood was to be given a brief try at quarterback and then shifted to safety but "we haven't been able to get him away from quarterback," Smith said. It appears that Frank Gifford now may be sufficiently recovered from a muscle pull to possibly start at flanker. However, due to get a trial there is the famed Homer Jones, the 9.3 dashman from Texas Southern. Jones, in a meet against Russia, won four gold medals on victories in the 100 and 200 and two relays (as anchorman). Also due for a good testing are Clarence Childs, the blazer who skimmed 108 yards for the Giants' only TD vs. the Vikings on a kickoff return, and the club's No. draft choice, big Steve Thurlow, a running back from Stanford. Thurlow, at 216, is considered one of the club's best rookie backs. He's being groomed as a heavy duty guy - like Alex Webster and Jim Taylor, the two starting fullbacks. So what are the Giants like on defense without Sam Huff, Andy Robustelli and Dick Modzelewski? This would be a good question to ask Starr come Saturday night because even Smith doesn't know right now. Right end, the position formerly owned by Robustelli, now a Giant coach, is occupied by Andy Stynchula, the former Redskin. Tony DiMidio, a rookie from little Winchester State, is now working at left tackle, Modzelewski's old spot, and wearing Huff's old number, 70. Huff's middle linebacker position houses Lou Slaby, a rookie from Pittsburgh. The rest of the Giants' fine defense is quite familiar - Jim Katcavage and John LoVetere in the line and Jerry Hillebrand and Tom Scott at linebackers and Erich Barnes, Dick Lynch, Dick Pesonen and Jim Patton in the secondary. One of the game's fine old pros will be starting at left halfback. That would be Dick James, one of the scrappiest guys in the business. He's a little one, 1t 5-9 and 185. Smith said the Giants "didn't look good against the Vikings, but Allie stuck to his game plan, which was to test the new players." That's a familiar tune. Because the Packers didn't look good in the opener either. And Coach Vince Lombardi stuck to the game theory, which was to give the new people a shot. The Packers spent considerable time on defense during Wednesday's practice in preparation for the Giants' explosive defense. Gradually working into the picture are the five All Stars, who are expected to see game action - Dennis Claridge, Duke Carlisle, Tommy Crutcher, Lloyd Voss and Ken Bowman...One fifth of the population of the United States, about 40,000,000, will be exposed to the Packer-Giant game. The largest radio network in the history of the U.S. will carry the action by Joe Hassel. It covers 106 stations in 16 states from Montana to Miami to Kentucky, Ohio and as far south and west as New Orleans. The game will originate on WNEW of New York and is carried on the New York Football Giant network.
HAWG ACHING - FOR ACTION; BACK HURT HAMPERS TAYLOR
AUG 14 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Dave Hanner and Jim Taylor are aching. For different reasons. Hanner, the daddy of homegrown Packers at 34, sat4 on the bench during the Pack's 20-7 loss to the Cardinals in New Orleans last Saturday night. The 13-year veteran is looking forward to playing against the Giants in City Stadium Saturday night. "I hope they use me. I got tired just watching from the bench last week," Hanner said the other day, adding: "That's the first time I didn't play when I suited up." Dave missed one game in his Packer career - the Sunday after he underwent an appendectomy a couple of years ago. He was back in action the next Sunday, though. Hanner was held out last week to permit a full go for Ron Kostelnik and Urban Henry. Taylor's back is hurting and unless he does a sharp about face, he'll not play against the Giants. Taylor bruised his back in New Orleans and he started favoring it earlier in the week. This resulted in muscle spasms. "It's one of those things that he might get over just like that," Coach Vince Lombardi said, snapping his fingers...Along the same line, Giant publicist Don Smith announced Thursday that seven Giants will not make the trip to Green Bay due to injuries. The team is scheduled to arrive here by United Airlines charter at 3:30 this afternoon. Four veterans are among the stay-at-homes, Del Shofner, Aaron Thomas, Joe Walton and Alex Webster. The rookies are guard Ed Adamachik of Pittsburgh, tackle John Contoulis of Connecticut, and tackle Frank Lasky of Florida. They were all hurt in the 21-7 loss to the Vikings last Saturday. Phil King will start in place of Webster at fullback while the versatile Joe Morrison will open for Shofner. Bob Crespino, the former Brown, is scheduled to start at right end - a spot occupied at Thomas and Walton...Ken Bowman, the former Wisconsin center, is working in with Turnley Todd behind Bob Skoronski at the pivot position. Bowman played guard in the College All Star game and said "I liked it and I learned a lot about line play." He probably will see some action vs. the Giants...Watch the officials
Saturday night. The NFL is conducting an experiment in officiating in all games this weekend and next. Under the new plan, which was proposed by Lombardi at a meeting of clubs last winter, the umpire will be moved from his standard position behind the defensive line to a point four to six yards behind the offensive team. He will always be on the weak side of the offensive formation and far enough to the outside so that his field of vision will enable him to carry out his basic assignments. Purpose of the experiment is to determine if the umpire can perform his duties more aptly by being removed from an area usually heavily populated with players. The ump, of course, will get a better look at holding in the offensive line and his life and limb will be safeguarded. Previous, he was running for his life or getting tangled up with players from his old position, usually behind the middle linebacker spot...Y.A. Tittle, starting pitcher for the Giants, will autograph his book, "I Pass," at the H.C. Prange Co., at 10 o'clock Saturday morning. He'll be accompanied by his co-author, Don Smith.
CLAIM EX-PACKERS
AUG 14 (Minneapolis) - The Minnesota Vikings of the NFL claimed two defensive backs from the Green Bay Packers by waivers Thursday. They are Larry Hunter, 22, a 6-3, 200-pounder from Grambling, and Joe Scarpati, 21, a 5-10, 185-pounder from North Carolina State.
PACKERS, GIANTS TEST REBOUND POWERS IN BISHOP'S GAME
AUG 15 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - The Packers, Giants, charity, and an audience of 42,327 will benefit from the fourth annual Bishop's Charities game in City Stadium tonight. Green Bay and New York, sharpening up for the grueling NFL championship race, both lost their preseason openers a week ago. And since the two belligerents have been top dogs in their divisions for the last few years, tonight's game offers each a fine opportunity (that's where the benefit comes in) to measure their rebounding powers...TENTH MEETING: Both outfits have quite a few promising rookies and anxious sophomores to test - and they will get plenty of chance, but the Big Guns also are due for a solid sock. As a result, Packer Coach Vince Lombardi and Giant Coach Allie Sherman will open with their ace quarterbacks - Y.A. Tittle and Bart Starr, and their accompanists. Kickoff is set for 8 o'clock and the pregame program will start at 7:45. Bishop Stanislaus V. Bona will throw out the football to start the battle. This will be the 10th time Lombardi has sent the Packers against his pro alma mater, and the Bays' coach has a seven-game winning streak going over little old New York. The Giants beat Vince twice in his first year, 1959, here - in an exhibition in Bangor, Me., and in a league game in New York...SEVEN STRAIGHT: But since that initial year, the Lombardimen have posted seven straight wins - in Jersey City in 1960 and three straight here in preseason Bishop's Charities battles; in Milwaukee in a league game in 1961; and in Green Bay in 1961 and in New York in 1962 in championship games. Green Bay won the first two Charities games by 20-17 scores and last year scored a 24-17 triumph. The three charity events were attended by a total of 107,029 fans and Bishop Bona's favorite charities realized a total of $118,685. Tonight's game was sold out three weeks ago. Just about anything could happen tonight and don't be surprised if some obscure rookie turns in a flaming performance. Lombardi and Sherman want to get a look at their simonpures. So keep an eye out for such freshmen as Clarence Childs, Tony DiMidio, and Homer Jones of the Giants and Dwain Bean, Bob Long, John McDowell, Lloyd Voss and John Baker of the Packers - not to mention a few. Veteranwise, the Packers are
hoping for a bit of jelling - such as a touchdown drive by Starr, Paul Hornung, Jim Taylor & Co., and a few solid stands by the regular defense. The Giants - though they'll be without veterans Alex Webster, Aaron Thomas, Del Shofner and Joe Walton, hope to come up with a reasonable facsimile of their championship style, too. This will be a big occasion for Hornung, who will be making his first appearance in City Stadium against a real live enemy since 1962. A year ago, Hornung watched the Bishop's game from the stands. Hornung may not receive full go from his famed sidekick, Mr. Taylor, Jarrin' Jim has a back injury and may be slowed down some - if he plays. This could put Hornung and the versatile Tom Moore in the backfield at the same time. Moore plays both running spots - not to mention flanker behind Boyd Dowler. There will be at least five familiar faces missing tonight - retirees Andy Robustelli of the Giants and Bill Forester of the Packers and tradees Jim Ringo of the Pack and Sam Huff and Dick Modzelewski of the Giants. Their former positions are being occupied by some exceptionally responsible citizens. Bob Skoronski is taking over for Ringo and Dave Robinson is in Forester's sport, sharing some of the duty with Lee Roy Caffey. Andy Stynchula is in
Robustelli's shoes, while DiMidio is at left tackle for Big Mo. Lou Slaby and Jerry Hillebrand will flash in Huff's area...Tonight's game will be broadcast on WJPG - plus the 6-station New York Giant network. The game will be shown on video tape on Channel 2 at 1 o'clock Sunday afternoon...Herb Adderley will receive a plaque from Bishop Bona for being selected the most valuable defensive player in last year's game. Ringo, now an Eagle, received the honor on offense, and his plaque has been mailed to him...Fans are urged to start early for the game...Both teams have excellent kickoff returners. In fact, the Giants' Childs ran a kickoff back 108 yards for a touchdown one week ago tonight!
EX-PACKER QB LAMAR MCHAN QUITS PRO GRID
AUG 15 (San Francisco) - Quarterback Lamar McHan, who spent part of his NFL career with the Green Bay Packers, has retired, the San Francisco 49ers said Friday. The 31-year-old signal caller joined the 49ers for the fourth game last season after San Francisco starter John Brodie broke an arm. McHan was the first draft choice of the Chicago Cardinals, now in St. Louis, in 1954. He joined the Packers in 1959 and went to Baltimore in 1961 before joining the 49ers.
