rather than increase the number of violations. "I think the fact that he's there (opposite the headlinesman on the line of scrimmage) may cut down on the calls," Gibbs said, pointing out, "We tried three officials (instead of the customary two) in basketball, and we found we had fewer fouls. The pros are pretty smart, and if they don't get caught, they'll try things," he added. "But if they know they've got an extra man watching them, they'll be more careful. Of course, we don't want a lot of flag throwing either - it spoils the game. The main thing, though, is that the game isn't won or lost because a call wasn't made and the sixth official should help in that area - he's the guardian of the sideline and the clock." Reminiscing for the moment, Gibbs said, "I remember when I worked with three officials, then with four and then with five. Now that we have six, I thought I should come back," he chuckled, "but they decided I shouldn't. When you get over 60, they think you should retire."...Em Tunnell, a valued member of the Packer secondary in 1959-60-61, returned to Lambeau Field as a member of the enemy intelligence. Now defensive backfield coach of the Giants, he worked the field telephone from the press box for Allie Sherman. Ever the philosopher, Em viewed his new duties with typical aplomb. "You win a few and you lose a few, baby," quoth the NFL's all-time interception leader. Bill Wightkin and George J. Halas, the Bears' two premier diagnosticians, were on hand to analyze the Pack with an eye to next Saturday's nationally TV'd Shrine collision between the two immemorial enemies in Milwaukee County Stadium. Also diagramming the action were the Detroit Lions' Gene Cronin, Paul Bixler of the world champion Cleveland Browns and the Pittsburgh Steelers' Will Walls...A delayed telecast of the game will be presented over Channel 2 at 1 o'clock this afternoon, with Al Sampson and Tony Canadeo at the microphone.

'MUST BE SATISFIED,...OR CRAZY': VINCE

AUG 15 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - "I've got to say I'm satisfied because of the score - if I didn't, you'd think I was crazy." Proceeding with his evaluation of the Packers' 44-7 decimation of New York's rebuilding Giants in a sultry, humid competitive baptism of Lambeau Field Saturday night, a pleased but pensive Vince Lombardi further volunteered, "I thought they all played well, but I'll have to see the pictures to accurately evaluate how we did. We had a great deal of hustle - outside of the kickoff coverage," Vince added with a chuckle. "The kickoffs (by Don Chandler) were all high and long - we've never had better, but we didn't cover them very well." Finding another flaw, the Packer major-domo noted, "We didn't block well on punts, either. He (Chandler) couldn't even get a punt away." "Of course," he conceded, "we neglected to work on those things in practice, so we'll have to concentrate on them this week." Turning again to the plus side, Lombardi observed, "We've got a lot of boys who want to play - they're fighting like hell for jobs." Would he say the Giants are not the Giants of old? Vince paused only briefly, then replied, "It's not for me to say - I'm never going to say that." The lopsided score, while not expected, had come as no great surprise, he added. "It happens all the time - a fumble on the 6-yard line, or an interception. That's 14 points right there." At this juncture, ex-Giant star Frank Gifford, a former Lombardi pupil and now TV colorcaster for the New Yorkers, stepped into Lombardi's inner sanctum to interject a congratulatory handshake and the observation, "You've got a ball club, coach." Resuming his analysis, the Packer headmaster headed off burgeoning optimism by declaring, "Let's not get excited - we've got a long way to go. The timing doesn't look good - and there's no polish. We do have one thing, however - we've got boys who like to hit. The rest will come. This is the first time since I've been here, by the way, that I've been able to use everybody in the first game. The only one who didn't play were Dick Herzing, Hank Gremminger, and Max McGee, who are out with injuries, and McGee could have played." Rookie Bill Symons, injured in the second quarter punt return, "has a pulled muscle," Lombardi reported. "He pulled it running it back - if he hadn't, he probably would have been away. It's the only reason he stopped."...Elsewhere in the jaunty Packer quarters, an exuberant Jerry Kramer exclaimed, "I feel excellent. I had no problems at all." "The worst part of it was taking the tape off after the game," pro football's most celebrated convalescent added with a puckish grin. "I wasn't completely satisfied with my performance," he admitted. "I had some good blocks, but I had some where I didn't sustain my feet as well as I should have." "But," Jerry beamed, "I didn't get tired at all - and I must have played about half the game. Every time I looked like I might be getting tired, Forrest (Gregg) would come in and, as a result, I never did get really tired. I kept waiting for something to happen - a pair or a twinge, but nothing has." A few feet away, Tom Brown's angular features were wreathed in a shy smile. "I don't know who those two boys were with me when I broke away, but they did a good job," said the stringbean sophomore, who cruised 92 yards for a touchdown with a fourth quarter Giant punt. "As I turned the corner, I slipped past the outside man and nobody touched me after that, but I had no idea at that point that I would go all the way." "It was very surprising," Tom smiled, "to see that open field ahead of me - it was a good experience." Carroll Dale, who registered the Packers' first touchdown on a 51-yard collaboration with Bart Starr, reported, "It was a perfect toss. Those are the hard ones to catch. It scared me to death. I had a little trouble with the ball - I didn't catch it cleanly - otherwise I would have stepped on in."...Accepting the one-sided decision matter of factly, Allie Sherman cheerfully volunteered, "That's the kind of a ball club we are. We could do anything from win to tie, to lose by a small margin or lose by a big score. We felt we could win, and we knew very well we might lose. But we have to look at the individuals in our situation and see what we've got and where the pieces will fall into place. Some of our new boys did well. Koy (Ernie, 235-pound rookie back from Texas) played well, we thought. So did Wheelwright and Thurlow. We weren't able to use Tucker Frederickson too much because he caught a virus in the All-Star camp and sat out most of the time there. Certain of our offensive linemen did well, although there were some breakdowns. And, of course, we couldn't pass the ball," Allie pointed out. "And in this league, you have to pass the ball. I'm not criticizing our quarterbacks, but I know that they can do better than that. I really mean that. Defensively, Green Bay had trouble moving the ball against us for a quarter and a half," he was pleased to note. "But you've got to move the ball against Green Bay - you can't give 'em the ball where we did. They're too good."

GIANTS' WINTER QUITS: 'NO FUN'

AUG 15 (Green Bay) - Linebacker Bill Winter of the New York Giants is quitting professional football because, he says, it "is no longer fun to play." Winter, 25, a high school English teacher during the offseason, announced his decision through a team spokesman Saturday before the Giant-Packer exhibition game here. The 1962 Giant rookie of the year started at linebacker in two NFL championship games, 1962 and 1963.
NOT ALL WERE GIANT 'HATERS'

AUG 15 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Lambeau Field held 50,837 fans Saturday night. In all probability, all but sux of these were cheering for the Packers. The "Daniels" in the lion's den, while maybe not wholeheartedly rooting for the New Yorkers, were undoubtedly pulling for one Giant in particular. The object of this limited affection was rookie Dave Powless, a 6-foot-3, 248-pound offensive tackle. His fans were his father and mother, Mr. and Mrs. Melville Powless, Rock Island, Ill., his aunt and uncle, Mr. and Mrs. Edmund Powless, 2584 Indian Hill Road, and brother and sister-in-law, Mr. and Mrs. Ron Powless, Green Lake. The gridder's father is a former resident of Oneida.

PACKERS CUT HELLER, JACOBAZZI, HERZING; POINT FOR BEAR GAME

AUG 16 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Their baptismal now a pleasant memory, the Packer today reduced their magic number to 50 before settling down to the rigors of 1965's first "Bear Week." Ron Heller, rookie halfback from Southern Cal who registered one of the Pack's six touchdowns in that 44-7 blitz of the Giants before a record house, and defensive tackles Roger Jacobazzi, late of Wisconsin, and Dick Herzing of Drake were placed on waivers by Coach Vince Lombardi. Their departure leaves 38 veterans and 12 rookies, the latter now including just three offensive backs - Bill Symons (Colorado), who was injured on a punt return Saturday night, Junior Coffey (Washington), recent arrival from the College All-Star camp, and Allen Jacobs (Utah). Their remaining fellow freshman are flanker Jerry Roberts (Baldwin-Wallace), center Bill Curry, guard Eli Strand, center-tackle Rich Koeper (Oregon State), tight ends Jim Thibert (Toledo) and John Housel (Wofford), defensive tackle Rich Marshall and defensive backs Wally Mahle and Donnie Davis. The Packers now are only three over the figure that must reach by the first of this year's cutdown deadlines, which is Aug. 31. Those remaining recruits, presumably, will be retested in Saturday afternoon's national televised Shrine classic against the Bears in Milwaukee County Stadium, although Lombardi is likely to enjoy less freedom to substitute than he did in the Pack's easy inaugural. The Bruins, like the Bays, will go into action with a 1-0 record, having shaded the Redskins, 31-30, in their debut last Thursday night. Lombardi, who devoted Sunday's "day of rest" to studying the film of Saturday night's match in company with his aides, said he found it "just about the game as I evaluated it Saturday night - we need some polish." And Jerry Kramer? The Packer headmaster said the amazingly resilient veteran "looked as well as might be expected after a one-year layoff." Massive Marv Fleming, who made his debut as successor to Ron Kramer at tight end, "looked fine," Lombardi reported, but he had no comment on the respective performances of Bob Jeter and Doug Hart, contending for the retired Jesse Whittenton's right cornerback post. "They didn't have a chance to do much," he explained...The Packers, who have leaned toward the "grind it out" approach in the Lombardi era, evinced a surprising penchant for the long ball en route to spreadeagling the Giants. It figured in the production of four of their six touchdowns, the feature item, of course, being Tom Brown's electrifying 92-yard scamper with an Ernie Koy punt for the Packers' final points. The ubiquitous Brown, standing in for the injured defensive Capt. Hank Gremminger, earlier had triggered Green Bay's first bomb by waylaying a Gary Wood pass and returning 20 yards to the 49. Bart Starr lofted a perfect pitch to Carroll Dale, a step in the van of New York's Erich Barnes, on the next play."...FAIRLY ROUTINE: TD No. 2 was fairly routine, although Starr and Fleming worked an 18-yard collaboration before Bart capped a 9-play drive with an 8-yard strike to the ascendant sophomore, Bob Long, but Dennis Claridge got into the "big play" act in forging No. 3, hurling a 47-yard liner to Elijah Pitts. Rookie Ron Heller burst over from the one three plays later. Starr, decked for a 14-yard loss on the preceding play, executed the slickest maneuver of the evening in fashioning No. 4 Hesitating before retreating, thus luring the unwary Giants out of position, he flipped a "screen" to Jim Taylor, who rambled 25 yards to the Giants' 23. Taylor and Hornung then alternated the rest of the way, Paul diving over from the two on a fourth assault. The Pack's highly workmanlike performance also indicated the ground game, the NFL's most productive last season, has not deteriorated. Green Bay's favorite sons, with seven hands figuring in the total, averaged nearly five yards per rush (4.94) in amassing 163 in 33 attempts. Ever reliable Tom Moore emerged as the overall leader with 40 yards in 8 thrusts, a 5.0 average, while rookie Junior Coffey compiled the best average, 6.2, with 31 in 5 tries.