1965 PACKERS - TRAINING CAMP

1965 Green Bay Packers Training Camp

1965 PACKERS

28 PACKER ROOKIES, PLUS CHANDLER, REPORT

JUL 22 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Twenty-eight rookies checked in for the Packers' 1965 baptismal at their St. Norbert College training quarters Wednesday night - officially. There was at least one other, however, a balding veteran of nine NFL autumns no less, who voluntarily lumped himself with the newcomers and confessed to sharing their traditional trepidation. Said B.V. was Don Chandler, the muscular kicking specialist acquired from the New York Giants over the winter, who pronounced himself "a little nervous - being a rookie again." Although a somewhat surprising declaration, considering his highly educated toe has sabotaged a variety of NFL opponents with great regularity over the past decade, he left no doubt of his sincerity. Despite his imposing pedigree (which includes one league punting title and a pair of seconds), the University of Florida alumnus is leaving nothing to chance. Though he ordinarily doesn't put toe to ball until he arrives in training camp, Chandler confided he has been kicking daily "for the last six weeks, I just want to be ready." the amiable Oklahoman was one of 56 athletes to sign in at St. Norbert's Frank J. Sensenbrenner Hall yesterday. Twelve more, including 10 veterans and rookies John Housel (Wofford end) and Ken Burke (Bowling Green guard), who were delayed by missing plane connections, are schedule to report Saturday night. Three other freshmen, end Allen Brown of Mississippi, center Bill Curry of Georgia Tech and halfback Junior Coffey of Washington, are toiling with the College All-Stars at Evanston, Ill., and will not check in until Aug. 7. Coach Vince Lombardi, who hurried in from the Jack Nicklaus

1965 Philadelphia card set - Philadelphia misspelled Adderley's name "Adderly" in all four of its sets from 1964 to 1967.

exhibition at Oneida to greet the 56 hopefuls and preside at a squad meeting, launched the customary two-a-day practice regimen this morning. It will continue (at 10 a.m. and 3 p.m.) until further notice. Chandler, employed as both punter and placekicker by the Giants but, it was noted, Paul Hornung has been tabbed to continue kicking the Packers' field goals and extra points. "I found that out the other day," Don reported with a wry grin. "Whatever they want is fine with me. I'm here for whatever they want to do with me."...SEE WHAT HAPPENS: How had he fared in his pre-camp efforts? "I was punting well," Chadler replied. "I was hitting 'em good. Placekicking is hard to tell about when you're practicing alone - you don't have a center or a regular holder." The father of three, he is taking nothing for granted. Don informed with a smile, "No, the family isn't here. I'm here alone - just to see what happens." The forthright Tulsan is, he declared, "tickled to death to be in Green Bay. I played for Vince in New York three years."...As always, opening night physical examinations revealed some awesomely substantial citizens. In fact, there appeared to be a few over the customary quota. Seven of the 28 yearlings scaled more than 260 pounds, with tackle Rich Marshall of Stephen F. Austin, a 10th draft choice, weighing in at a startling 295. Tom Johnson (Oklahoma State) registered 278, Charlie Harris (Tennesse A and I) 277, Al Zenko (Kent State) 272, Eli Strand (Iowa State) 265, Rich Koeper (Oregon State) 264 and Dick Herzing (Drake) 263. All except Strand, a guard, are tackles. Steve Wright, the 6-6 sophomore from Alabama, also scaled 260, a solid 10 pounds over his 1964 playing figure, which the Packer staff viewed with some satisfaction. Ken Bowman, hampered at center last season because he couldn't get above 230, also was a welcome sight to the brain trust at 248. Linebacker Gene Breen, in contrast, was listed at 222-weight - pounds lighter than a year ago. "I've been teaching elementary physical education in Pittsburgh and I think I got more exercise than the kids did," he explained with a smile. "But I enjoyed it. I also did some construction work after school let out and was down to 206 when I got here two weeks ago. I'm back up to 222 and I don't think I'll have too much trouble getting back up to 250. They've suggested weightlifting and I've been doing some of it - and it's helped a lot." Packer patriarch Dave Hanner, reporting for his 14th season, confided, "I'm 262 - about six or seven pounds over my playing weight." That modest amount, it was suggested, could be lost in a couple of days. "That's what I'm afraid of," Hanner grinned...PACKER PATTER: One of yesterday's arrivals, UCLA's Steve Clark, was unexpected. The kicking specialist, signed to a bonus baseball contract last spring by the Boston Red Sox, apparently had decided to forsake football. Explaining his change of heart, he said, "I'm 23 years old and they sent me to Waterloo, Iowa, which is in Class D, instead of to Winston-Salem, which is Class A. I thought I was too old to start out in Class D. They also didn't come through with some other things they promised me, and, of course, I wasn't doing too well either."...Dr. James W. Nellen, Packer team physician, conducted the physical examinations, with the assistance of Drs. E.S. Brusky, George McGuire, William Schibly, Robert Schmidt, Harry Hoegemeier and Tom Murphy. Trainer Carl W. (Bud) Jorgensen, beginning his 42nd Packer season, and Aide Dominic Gentile also lent a hand...Interior linemen are not due to report until Saturday night, but three of them, Lloyd Voss, Wright and Hanner, were among the early birds.

MOORE, CLARK, CAFFEY BOOST KICKOFF HOPES

JUL 23 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Feast or famine? It could be "feast," in one cat4egory at least, for Vince Lombardi, who has hungered throughout his seven-year Packer reign for a lead-footed kickoff specialist - one who would not permit the enemy to launch drives from near midfield with painful regularity. He now may have not just one, but three to choose from, at least B.C. (before cuts). Lombardi, who in desperation turned to untried Lee Roy Caffey last October, found two other logical contenders for the 1965 assignment in Thursday afternoon's wilting workout, which capped an exhausting first day for 62 hopefuls, including 30 rookies, who perspired profusely in 92-degree heat. And one of them, "little" (5-11 and 175) Larry Moore of Central Michigan, warmed the coaches' collective heart (if that were possible) by booming kickoffs five yards deep in the end zone with delightful consistency. Steve Clark, another rookie from UCLA, also reached the goal line with regularity and although his talents already had been established, Caffey again impressed by booming two or three beyond the end line. Expressing satisfaction with Moore's efforts, kicking coach Norb Hecker observed, "He was getting off what you would call an almost perfect kick - long, high and beautiful. He looks like a well-coordinated athlete. He reminds me a lot of Billy Butler - in both his looks and his moves," Hecker added. "When I tried him out at cornerback, he showed he has good hands and react well. He looks like a good little football player." Moore, surprising enough, was somewhat apologetic about his performance. "I'm a little tired today," he explained with a wan smile as the grueling afternoon session ended. "If you don't' come o camp in top football shape, it's rough. I'm in good general shape, but I was up at summer school until recently and there was nobody to work out with. You have to have somebody pushing to get into top shape." Larry, who played with the Grand Rapids Blazers of the United Football League in 1964, missed only one extra point in 14 games last season - and it was blocked. He also kicked eight field goals, in addition to doing all the punting (he averaged an impressive 44.8 on 54 kicks) and functioning as a full-time cornerman. Signed as a free agent by Packer personnel director Pat Peppler, Moore confessed to a modicum of concern about his weight. "I'd like to be at least 180," he said, "but I don't know whether I'll be able to make it." How did he explain his distance shots, particularly on kickoffs? "I think a lot of it's in the timing - and the leg snap," the youthful native of Linden, Mich., (pop. 1,200) confided. A special education teacher in the offseason, he works with retarded children. "I did student teaching last year," he revealed, "and I enjoyed it very much."...The Packers suffered a brief scare near the close of the afternoon drill when veteran tackle-center Bob Skoronski left the field complaining of "a pain in my chest." He shortly walked to the dressing room under his own power, however, and precautionary examination by Dr. Eugene Brusky subsequently disclosed it to be only a slight case of heat exhaustion. "He just had a little cramp," Dr. Brusky explained. Skoronski and his 61 colleagues shed more than 500 pounds during the course of the day, with rookie tackle Rick Marshall of Stephen F. Austin emerging as the champion weight loser. He weighed in at 285 before the morning workout, scaled 272 following the afternoon drill. Elijah Pitts was close behind, plunging from 220 to 208...PACKER PATTER: Only five veterans are now missing. Although interior linemen are not due to report until 6 o'clock Saturday evening, Ron Kostelnik and Fuzzy Thurston appeared for Thursday morning's drill, although they did not officially check in. Lionel Aldridge and Dan (Charlie Tuna) Grimm also put in an appearance in the afternoon, although neither donned a uniform. Still to report are end Willie Davis, guards Forrest Gregg and Jerry Kramer and tackles Norm Masters and John McDowell...As the sultry afternoon wore on, one bedraggled principal plaintively queried, "Is there no mercy in this world?" Humorist Max McGee took another tack, however, tongue-in-cheek announcing, "It gets easier every year."...Hecker was the season's first casualty - he split the seat of his coaching shorts midway through the morning session and had to dig out another pair for the p.m. workout.

HAPPY TO BE WITH WINNER, DALE SHRUGS OFF BLISTERING DRILLS; LOWERY JOINS PACK

JUL 24 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Even the most patient of Packers couldn't resist grousing ever so slightly Friday - with one notable exception. Struggling through a second straight day of blistering 90-plus degree temperatures and suffocating humidity, more than a few of the 63 tiring toilers kept a close and wistful eye on the time throughout the final hour of the afternoon session. There was no complaint, however, from sinewy Carroll Dale, the jet-like flanker acquired from the Los Angeles Rams over the winter in exchange for Dan Currie. He, it develops, is just delighted to be with a winner. "It's tough enough," the soft-spoken Bristol, Tenn., resident conceded, "but it's comparable to what I went through in the Ram camp last year. I guess they had a kind of war on playing out there." Continuing his comparison, he noted, "You don't have the smog here, but you have the balances the other out. The drills are different here than there, but they've both of a type to condition you." All of which brought him to his principal point, "It's worth it," Dale quietly confided. "It's part of winning - and I'm willing to do anything to win. I'm tired of losing, that's for sure." He added, "I was a little surprised to find most of the guys are great guys. Not," Carroll hastily amended, "that most of of the guys in Los Angeles aren't. But I thought the guys here might be a little cocky, having been on top so long, but that isn't true at all." Any concern about collaborating with a new passer? "Not at all," was the unhesitating reply. "I've been in the league long enough (this is his sixth season) to know that if a receiver can get open, the passer will get the ball to him. And I'm sure Bart (Starr) will. And, of course, I played a year or so with Zeke (Bratkowski) with the Rams." So serious is the VPI alumnus about a new start that he wants no part of his old number, 81. "I guess somebody else has it anyway," Carroll observed with a faint smile, "but I wouldn't want it regardless - I don't want anything to remind me of the past. I hope I can get 84, which is the number I had in college." End Coach Tom Fears, who unreservedly recommended the Packers deal for him, is one of Dale's most ardent advocates. "I had him his first two years with the Rams, and he's one of the finest flankers I've ever seen come up," Tom declared. Noting the 6-1, 195-pound speedball "never reached his potential with the Rams," Fears declared, "Carroll has great speed - not good speed, great speed. He's among the faster flankers. He also has pretty good hands and very good moves. And he is a good blocker and carries out his assignments when he is not involved in a play as the intended receiver. He is a very fine flanker - a great acquisition for us. He hasn't reached his potential yet - but he can still do it." Croaks of joy erupted from 64 parches throats as Coach Vince Lombardi barked, "We've had a good workout so we'll only do three sprints (climax to every practice)," just before the close of Friday afternoon's wringer. The cheers shortly turned to groans, however, when Lombardi boomed, "We're not running - we'll have to add some here." Fortunately for them, the weary warriors were able to coax a final burst from throbbing muscles and the Packer headmaster relented. Those final touches were preceded by drills on live blocking techniques, live pass blocking, form tackling and running plays vs. air dummies. The linemen also took their customary quota at lunches at the 2 and 7-man sleds, while the offensive backs churned their way through that affectionate little device known as "the blaster."...The Packers released one player and welcomed two others during the course of the day. Leroy McAlister, 5-11, 175-pound flanker from Sam Houston (Tex.) State, was placed on waivers only hours before C.D. Lowery, a free agent defensive back from the University of Utah, reported. Lowery had been with the San Diego Chargers of the AFL. Veteran defensive end Lionel Aldridge also checked in for the morning drill. Three more veterans, Jerry Kramer, Willie Davis and Henry Jordan, reported this morning, leaving only Forrest Gregg and Norm Masters among the holdovers to check in by tonight's deadline...PACKER PATTER: Allen Jacobs, rookie fullback from Utah, sustained a twisted right knee in the waning minutes of the afternoon workout. "I was up in the air and one of the coaches said something to me," Jacobs ruefully explained. "I forgot I was up in the air, landing on my knee and twisted it."...Rick Marshall, mountainous freshman tackle from Stephen F. Austin, also acquired a gash in the right forearm when he struck it on the left corner of a reaction machine in the morning, but no stitches were required...Lombardi praised Carroll Dale's maneuvers during a pass pattern drill, once enthusing "Great move, great move." The Packer major-domo also was delighted with the kickoff "debut" of Don Chandler, who orbited a series of KOs, the ball consistently soaring far beyond the end zone. Chandler, incidentally, also made his bow at center - for the pass pattern drill. "How do you like the new job, boy?" Lombardi quipped to the 10-year veteran. It was hardly a novelty to the rock-like Oklahoman, he later revealed. "I've been doing it forever," he smiled. "I did it for years with the Giants."...An interested observer at yesterday afternoon's session was Wally Cruice, veteran Packer game scout...The annual "Picture Day," which is expected to lure photographers from around the state, will be held Sunday, starting at 9 a.m.

'65 YEARBOOK FEATURES LEGENDS' PROFILE

JUL 25 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - There are two ways for the faithful to collect information on their favorite grid contingent. One is to clip, record and videotape all that is written, spoken and seen about the Packers. This could be expensive and time consuming. The other is to purchase a copy of the 1965 Green Bay Packer Yearbook. It costs only about the price of three packs of smokes - and is guaranteed not to give off a cancer scare. The book, edited and produced by P-G men Arthur Daley and Jack Yuenger, features a cover photo of Vince Lombardi and the late Curly Lambeau. Lambeau is also featured in an inside page epistle by Lee Remmel, who has covered the Pack for 18 years. He traces the Lambeau legend from his days at West High School up through national glory, disappointment and disenfranchisement. Remmel also catalogues the careers of Packer coaches - zeroing in on the job of the assistant coach. His recollection of the less-professional-but-perhaps-more-colorful mentors of old will bring back memories. One piece is sure to make the annals of medical history more interesting, describing as it does the excavations and logging operations performed on one Jerry Kramer. The Kramer syndrome - a seeming relish of personal disaster - is detailed. Daley takes a look at the upcoming season and points to Packer outh and experience - a balance that could well bring another championship to the city on the Bay. Other stories are devoted to top rookie back Allan Brown, one of Mississippi's largest natural phenomena, the bone-jarring Packer intra-squad game, expansion of City Stadium and Packer participation in five straight postseason workouts. Profiles are provided on ponderous Willie Davis, the thinking man's wrecking squad; the Hornung-Taylor-Moore crowd scene and an analysis of what a pro quarterback will generally do on a third and two. (The conclusion, he may run or pass - depending on the situation.) The shiny-paper volume also contains the all-time Packer records, which should keep peace in your favorite watering spot, Packer statistics from last season and a look at league teams and their coaches. The book also features a variety of photos showing season highlights. Chief among these are a picture of the Stadium scoreboard indicating a fourth and 51 for the Detroit Lions and another shot of five Packers gleefully soiling the turf with Jimmy Brown. The book has only two noticeable shortcomings - the fact that it is, of necessity, produced prior to the training camp season and does not have totally up-to-date information. The second, and more serious flaw, is a poem on coaching by Edgar Guest.

JERRY PASSES FIRST BIG TEST

JUL 25 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Medical marvel Jerry Kramer, an incredibly resilient citizen, passed his first test with surprising ease Saturday. Although withheld from contact work by Coach Vince Lombardi, the walking incision took part in most of the rigorous calisthenics - including those tortuous pushups - and all of the sprints in both the Packers' morning and afternoon sessions without apparent distress. Kramer, who has been in and out of surgery since last September and

had been advised by some doctors he would never play again, settled back on a chair in front of his locker following the afternoon pressure cooker and reported with satisfaction, "I'm not hurting at all." "I suppose," he added wryly, "I'll be miserable tomorrow, though. I haven't had any activity for about 10 months now. Actually, the calisthenics didn't bother my stomach at all - it was just my legs and my wind. I've got a pretty bad cold - sinus and bronchitis. That was the worst part of it." Advised by Lombardi to "take it easy for awhile," Jerry confided, "I asked the coach if there was any sense in my wearing pads this afternoon and he said, 'Not hardly.' I'd like to get into some of that activity, but I guess I'll have to wait a while." Casting an eye to the future, the perennial all-pro declared without reservation, "I certainly think I'll be physically ready by the time the league season opens (Sept. 19), but how much missing this early contact will hurt me is hard to tell. You've got to play a little bit - that's the only thing I'm worried about. If you don't get any contact, you're bound to be rusty."...The first major head-knocking interlude of the embryo training season added considerably spice to the Pack's P.M. program. Obviously, pleased with the zest displayed in the 25-minute "nutcracker," a bone-jarring 1-on-1 with ball carrier format, Lombardi declared, "Good hitting." Freshmen Jim Chandler (Benedict College) and Jim Thibert (Toledo U.) sported painful mementos to document his point. Chandler, a high-stepping halfback, and Thibert, a bruising 240-pound tight end, both collected bloody noses in the process. Thibert, an impressively hewn veteran of United Football League competition, gingerly fingered his aching proboscis and humorously confessed, "They put a couple of wrinkles in it for me." He expressed satisfaction with the drill, however, asserting, "It's a good one. I'll take that," he grinned, "over that running any time." It wasn't, a subsequent event was to prove, Chandler's day. Not long after his nose rearranged, he acquired a pulled muscle in his left thigh running out a pass pattern. Tom Johnson, 260-pound rookie tackle from Oklahoma State, also was a casualty on the final "play" of the afternoon when he twisted his right ankle. Although he chastised a few of his shock troops for improper or lackadaisical execution, Lombardi's strained baritone (he had "lost" his voice 15 minutes earlier) rasped kudos throughout the explosive "nutcracker" session. Rookies Rich Koeper (Oregon State), Eli Strand (Iowa State), Charlie Harris (Tennessee A and I), Thibert and Bob Long, the stringbean (6-3 and 190) sophomore flanker from Wichita, among others, elicited praise for their efforts. Delighted with one Long assault which cleared a path for Bill Symons against the hard-nosed Gene Breen, he barked, "Good shot," then turned and observed to the general huddle, "And that boy didn't play football until he came here - just one year."...PACKER PATTER: Henry Jordan, who held forth alongside Dave Hanner for five seasons at defensive tackle, couldn't resist a gentle needle as Hanner left the dressing room following Saturday morning's drill. "Coach Hann-ah, I'll see you at quarter to 3," Henry drawled with a sly smile. Hanner, who has been serving as assistant coach as well as part-time player since practice began Thursday, flashed a wry grin, but left without comment, which prompted Jordan to quip, "He's already chewed me out three times this morning."...Lombardi called upon Assistant Trainer Dominic Gentile for aid following after his voice deserted him midway through the afternoon drill. "I can't tell any more, Dominic," he croaked. "Tell 'em to send me two quarterbacks (for a pass pattern drill). My voice is gone."...Lloyd Eaton, head football coach at the University of Wyoming, was a practice observer...The annual "Picture Day" was scheduled to begin at 9 o'clock this morning. Two-a-day sessions will resume at 10 a.m., Monday.

MASTERS RETIRES; SEVEN OTHERS CUT

JUL 26 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Rugged Norm Masters, a shrewd veteran of eight seasons and two world championships, called it a career today. The 31-year-old offensive tackle, who had reported to the Packers' St. Norbert College training camp Saturday night, explained his surprise announcement with, "It's time to make the decision and I felt it only fair to Coach Lombardi and the team to make the decision before they made plans for the season." Masters, acquired from the Detroit Lions in the 1957 Tobin Rote trade, had shared left tackle with Bob Skoronski since 1959, except for last season. He took over sole possession of the assignment when Skoronski was moved to center in the wake of Jim Ringo's departure, then moved to right tackle when the offensive wall was realigned following an injury to left guard Fuzzy Thurston in mid-season. In announcing Masters' decision, Lombardi declared, "Norm has been a great credit to the team, not only for his football ability, but also for his lightness and jovial attitude. He is one of the great tackles in the league and will be missed. Norm was smart enough to know that when a man feels he is not mentally ready to go, he deteriorates physically," he added. "Therefore, he felt that if he could not give 100 percent, he should retire. It is only people of his high caliber who realizes he cannot give his 100 percent - and Norm wouldn't stay on unless he could do a great job." Masters, who won consensus All-American honors as a Michigan State senior in 1955, explained, "I think

it's a decision everyone has to make eventually. I'd like to leave here with a good image in terms of the idea that I did my best for the Packers. If I tried to just exist out there, I don't think it would be fair to the coach. I think I had to get away by myself to make the decision - I was the only one who could make it," he added. "The only one I talked to about it was my wife. I felt I had to come to a decision because it would be unfair to continue or even start on this basis. Coach Lombardi always has been very fair with me. I called my wife from camp last night and talked it over. She didn't question my decision, but she said, 'I wonder if you might not be remorseful two months from now.' I said, 'Honey, I feel remorseful already, but I suppose this is the way every player feels when he had to make the decision.'" A proud athlete, Norm continued, "I wanted to be able to call the shot, rather than have them some time tell me I was no longer of use to them. As I thought about it, I tried to get the feeling that I could do the job. The feeling was there, but the drive was a little lacking." Looking to the immediate future, the personable Detroit resident observed, "Coach Lombardi has a real good prospect in Steve Wright to replace me, so I'm not leaving him high and dry. As much as you'd like you'll be missed," Norm added, "they always seem to find somebody to take your place. That's the Packer tradition. The fans are the best in the country, and I can't say enough about the people here, particularly our landlady, Mrs. Alice Cook. She has been a wonderful factor in making our stay happy here by allowing us to use her home every season. And it's been a privilege to play here. I've made some lasting friendships that I really treasure. I'm not leaving permanently, though. I definitely will be back for some of the games here. I hope to continue as a part of the team on a sort of an alumni basis - and I hope to see the team go to a championship year." Masters' sudden decision overshadowed the first major squad cut of the year, which saw seven rookies - including Eau Claire State passing ace Jim Van Gorden, placed on waivers. Also released were Steve Clark, Oregon State kicking specialist; Ken Burke, Bowling Green guard; Tellis Ellis, Jackson State halfback; John Putman, Drake fullback; Tom Singleton, Yale quarterback; and Ernie Smith, Maine tackle. Their departure, plus the loss of Masters, reduced the in-camp roster to 62. Three others, center Bill Curry, end Allen Brown and halfback Junior Coffey, are with the College All-Stars.

'SOPHS' WRGHT, VOSS EYE VACANT TACKLE POSITION

JUL 27 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - With Norm Masters now a distinguished Packer alumnus, two strapping sophomores eagerly moved front and center today. Prime contenders in the wake of the eight-year veteran's surprise exit are Steve Wright, the rollicking 6-6 Kentuckian, and Lloyd Voss, studious 6-4 transfer from the defensive platoon, both of whom scale 250 tautly tailored pounds. Opportunity could be a knocking for both, however, in addition to several talented rookies. Prior to Masters' sudden departure, the Pack was blessed with three premier offensive tackles, the other being all-pro Forrest Gregg and Co-Capt. Bob Skoronski, who opened the 1964 session as Jim Ringo's successor at center. The versatile Gregg subsequently moved to right guard, following an injury to the elder "guardian angel," Fuzzy Thurston, with Dan Grimm assuming Thurston's left guard role. Wright and Voss will be challenged for the newly-created vacancy by Rich Koeper, 6-4, 245-pound recruit from Oregon State's 1965 Rose Bowl team, and Drake's Dick Herzig, 6-3 and 250, both of whom have flashed substantial early promise. Whether a second opening develops is dependent, in large part, upon the extent and rapidity of Kramer's recovery from multiple abdominal surgeries and attendant complications, an imponderable at this point, although the Pack's answer to Mickey Mantle has weathered rigorous calisthenics without major discomfort. He has been withheld from all contact thus far, however. Although they evinced somewhat contrasting reactions, both Wright and Voss enthused about the prospect of steady employment. The announcement "put a big smile on my face," Wright admitted with disarming candor, adding, "There's an old saying to the effect there are some people who have opportunities, there are others who never see them and then there are those who take advantage of them. This is one of those situations where if you don't take advantage of it," the Bunyan-esque Alabama alumnus declared, "you'd better hang it up." He felt, then, that he could do the job? "Knock of wood," he grinned, rapping on his locker in an almost-deserted Packer dressing room to illustrate his point. "I think so, yes. I definitely feel if I don't, I'm in trouble." His chances of success have improved "because I think I've got a lot better attitude than I had last year," Wright explained. "As a rookie, all you think about is setting your sights on certain goals. Once I made the team, I leveled off on a plateau, and you just can't do that." "I'm lighter, too, than I was a year ago. I just spent six months in the Army at Fort Leonard Wood, Mo. That," Steve smiled, "tends to keep the weight down." Comparing the present training camp grind to his rookie year, Wright declaimed, "It's much easier psychologically this season, although I'd say it's much tougher physically. When you're a rookie, it's like walking into a dark room - you don't know what to expect. Now I know what to expect and it's much easier." Exhibiting a more cautious approach, Voss pointed out, "There are a couple of good rookies, so I'm just hoping for the best." The ex-Nebraska star, the Packers' No. 1 draft choice a year ago, expressed satisfaction with his transfer to offense, explaining, "I like it quite a bit better - I just like to block." He is unhappy, however, with his progress to date. "That season on defense threw me off a little," the engaging Minnesotan revealed. "I feel a little awkward. But it will come around - or at least it should be coming around pretty soon," he added wryly, "or I'll be on a slow train out of here." Unlike Wright, he finds little change from his baptismal season. "I feel just like a rookie again," he said soberly, "because there's a lot of pressure. I'm really going through my first fall camp because of being in the All-Star game last year. If it hadn't been for that, I would have had a one-year jump on the rookie linemen. That's why I came up to camp early - so I could start from scratch."...Disinclined to settle for a third consecutive second place finish, Coach Vince Lombardi sent his 62-man cast - fully assembled for the first time - with a controlled scrimmage in Monday afternoon's full dress session. "There must be an all-time first - a scrimmage on the first day of practice," he later noted with a chuckle. Tom Brown, the accomplished sophomore safety, sparkled through, intercepting one pass and batting down two other potential "touchdowns."...PACKER PATTER: Center Ken Bowman sported a bloody gash in his left eyebrow following the head-knocking. "I got in a good pop out there and my hat (helmet, to the uninitiated) slid back some way and cut me," he reported...Jerry Kramer's long convalescence hasn't dulled his sense of humor. After following "guardian angel" Fuzzy Thurston sparkled in one blocking effort, Jerry quipped, "You won't be worth a darn the rest of the day, but you looked great on that."...There still has been no word from punter Jerry Norton. Although he presumably has retired, the 34-year-old Texan hasn't officially informed the Packers of his intentions. Norm Masters is the second veteran to retire, following cornerback Jesse Whittenton...Ron Kramer, of course, also is among the missing. Now legally a free agent, he has been consistently unavailable to discuss his 1965 plans, although he earlier had expressed a hope of finding employment with his hometown Detroit Lions. The Lions, however, reportedly have evinced no official interest in his services.

LAMBEAU FIELD FAVORED BY SPECIAL COMMITTEE

JUL 27 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Renaming of City Stadium as Lambeau Field was unanimously recommended Monday by a special seven-man committee named by the City Council. In a separate recommendation, the committee supported the idea of a suitable facility to honor the many individuals who contributed to the image and development of the Packers in professional football and to house items of interest connected with the team's history and individuals. The committee, however, said such a facility would require considerable study as to the form it would take, costs of building and maintenance and method of selection of those who would be included. The committee agreed, if authorized, to launch such studies and to make later recommendations. The committee was named by the City Council July 6 upon recommendations of the Stadium Commission. Members include: Charles Brock, chairman; Arnold Herber, vice-chairman; and Andy Uram, all former Packers; Haydn Evans, WBAY; Ben Laird, WDUZ; John Torinus of the Packer executive committee; and David A. Yuenger, Press-Gazette. The citizen committee report will be received by the Stadium Commission at its next regular meeting Aug. 2. The City Council meets next Aug. 3. City Attorney Clarence Nier, commission president, said today he was pleased with the speed with which the citizen committee handled its assignment. "The Stadium Commission saw fit to empower me to name an impartial

committee to study the question of a fitting Lambeau memorial. The personnel of the committee was selected with two thoughts in mind, first, people who personally knew Mr. Lambeau or who played football for him, and, two, members of the news media who are in daily contact with the public. I am pleased with the alacrity with which the committee disposed of its task. The recommendation will now be presented to the Stadium Commission," Nier said. Although the committee was not specifically charged with the responsibility to take a stand on changing the name of the stadium, it announced that its action was based on its belief that there is widespread agreement among citizens of Green Bay and other sections of Wisconsin that renaming would be a fitting tribute to the founder and head coach of the Packers from 1919 through 1949. "The name Curly Lambeau has been synonymous with the founding and long and illustrious history of the Packers," the committee said. "It was through his efforts as coach that the Packers became one of the great teams in NFL history, with resulting benefits to Green Bay and Wisconsin in terms of nationwide publicity whose tremendous value cannot be adequately measured. Now that Mr. Lambeau has died, we believe that no more fitting tribute could be paid to his memory than to name the stadium after him. Through various contacts that we have had with citizens of Green Bay and elsewhere in the state, we know that sentiment is overwhelming in favor of changing the name to Lambeau Field as a permanent memorial to the man who must, by any yardstick, be credited with much of the great history of the Packers." The committee further recommended that the name "Lambeau Field" be prominently displayed on the stadium. On the memorial building proposal, the committee expressed the belief that it could be a fine tourist attraction along with the stadium. It agreed, however, that plans, financing and other various details are complex and would have to be worked out through careful study to achieve a facility that would best suit the purposes for which it was erected.

MCDOWELL PROVES BRUISING QUICK CHANGE ARTIST

JUL 28 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Whistling is something akin to awe, Willie Wood announced to all within earshot, "That McDowell is just running over people. I mean, he's running over people." Willie, declaring from beneath the photographers' tower during a brief breather from the Packers' first pass scrimmage of the infant 1965 season Thursday afternoon, unwittingly capsuled the prevailing sentiment of the coaching staff, assorted newsmen, and several hundred titillating railbirds in the "audience." For McDowell, a substantial sophomore who answers to the name John, has been throwing his weight around with bruising abandon ever since he was transferred to defensive tackle upon reporting last Thursday. The 6-3, 253-pound former St. John's (Minn.) College luminary credits his bristling emergence to the unexpected switch. Flashing a broad smile as he throttled down after Tuesday afternoon's spirited session, McDowell declared, "I like it a lot better than offense. My clumsiness isn't so noticed sometimes." A surprisingly accomplished quick change artist, the likeable St. Paul resident explained, "I was about 265 pounds two weeks ago, and I went on a diet to get ready to play offense. Then I had to gain some when I got here and they switched me to defense. I didn't know about it until after the first sprint when Dave (Player-Coach Dave Hanner) told me to start running with the defense. I'm kind of happy about it, especially after seeing all those guards," he added with a grin. Realistically observing, "I've got a lot to learn," McDowell explained. "It's sort of disheartening playing behind player like Willie Davis. You see him make some moves it'll take you 10 years to learn." The crew cut blond, who won 11 letters at St. Thomas Academy and 11 more at St. John's ("I didn't play basketball as a senior because we went to the Camellia Bowl at Sacramento and I came back out of shape"), is not a total stranger to his new role. "I played defensive end as a freshman and sophomore, then was switched to tackle as a junior and senior," he said. "I played pretty much the same way at end in college, so it's not completely foreign to me." He has encountered only one major problem to date. McDowell confided, "I go to my right naturally - I always have - and I find it a little tough going to the outside, or my left, as I have to do playing left end. I always have to think before I move. I was watching defensive films the other night - it's the first time I've watched them," he added, "and I swear Davis and Nitschke (Ray) were in three-fourths of the tackles. It's unbelievable." Impressed with McDowell's efforts thus far, Defense Coach Phil Bengtson pointed out, "He's a big, strong, fast kid. He's been doing real well, and we're real satisfied with his performance. He's a good football player." "Of course," he added with customary coachly caution, "he's only been in camp a few days." The Pack's pass protection, particularly that afforded by sophomore tackle Steve Wright (a prime contender for Norm Masters' vacated berth), proved a source of satisfaction to the brain trust in yesterday's baptismal test. It also elicited praise from the "enemy," all-pro defensive tackle Henry Jordan announcing "I never even got across the line of scrimmage all afternoon. Willie (Davis) said he didn't either." The defense didn't go completely empty-handed, however. Linebackers Dave Robinson and Tommy Crutcher weighing in with interceptions...PACK PATTER: McDowell is a former football foe of Vince Lombardi, Jr. "We played against each other four years in a row in college when I was at St. John and he was at St. Thomas," John reported, aiding with a smile. "I tackled him many times - and many times I missed him."...Rapidly recovering Jerry Kramer announced, "I felt real, real good," after assaulting the 7-man sled with surprising vigor during the p.m. practice... A crew of New York TV photographers shot both morning and afternoon drills at background action for a new cigar commercial..."I could drink a gallon of water and just be back to normal," Dave Robinson declared as he took a deep pull from a paper cup during a rest period. Ray Nitschke, arriving just behind him, needled, "How do you expect to lose weight?" Robbie protested, "I'm just having a cup - I'm no camel."

J. CHANDLER GOLD STRIKE FOR PACK?

JUL 29 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Gold, the ancient axiom deposes, is where you find it. If this is true, the Packers well may have struck it right in distant Columbia. S.C., which jet-like Jim Chandler, a snaky-hipped citizen with firm purpose, calls home. Chandler, the Pack's 20th and final draft choice last January and first Benedict College (enrollment 1,400) alumnus ever to get a major league football tryout, is proving to be a lustrous diamond in the rough. In fact, no less an authority than John Beauregard Cochran, veteran backfield coach and notorious conservative, is cautiously optimistic about the 6-4, 205-pound speedster's professional future. "If he gets to know what he's doing and where he's going, Chandler's going to be a great runner," the laconic redhead announced after the loose-limbered rookie continued to impress in Wednesday afternoon's resounding session. "He has good sped, and deceptive speed, with quick moves," Cochran explained, "and right now, he's doing it with a pulled leg muscle." "If he learned what to do and where to go," Red repeated, "he could make some long runs for us. He has a 9.8-yard rushing average for his college career, you know." Scout Johnny Mauer, a former assistant coach at the University of Tennessee, called Chandler to the Packers' attention prior to last year's draft and, subsequently, Jim reported, "I got a letter from Coach Lombardi asking me how I would like to play with the Packers. I wrote back and told him, 'I'll play for anybody just as long as I can play,'" Chandler, who streaked the 100-yard dash in 9.7 as a collegian, smiled, explaining, "It's very seldom you see a football player come from my school - in fact, I'm the first one. So I really have a hard time, I have to put out." Getting back to matters of correspondence, the soft-spoken South Carolinian who turned down a baseball offer from the Cincinnati Reds to play football, added, "Coach Lombardi wrote back and said they were thinking of drafting me and said if they did, it wouldn't affect my chances of being drafted by the other league. I wrote back and told him I wanted to play for the Packers, if I could." The smile faced ever so slightly and he appended, "I came here to play football, period. It's a long way from home and no time to be jiving around."...Beaming in the wake of one thunderous collision in the p.m.'s "nutcracker" drill, which found mountainous Marv Fleming putting the blast on Tommy Crutcher, Lombardi sang out, "Thatta way, Marv. We aren't going to miss that other fellow at all." The "other fellow," for the record, is Ron Kramer, Fleming's predecessor at tight end. Fleming also drew high praise from End Coach Tom Fears on the maneuver, Fears declaring, "That's the way to block, Marv. You had him five yards back." Only casualty of the thunderous head-knocking was sophomore flanker Bob Long, who acquired a slightly strained neck after an errant collision with linebacker Gene Breen. "You're supposed to keep your head up, and I made the mistake of keeping it down," Long ruefully explained. Although withheld from further contact, as a safety measure, the Vandergrift, Pa., native was back at his regular stand today...PACKER PATTER: Firehorse Henry Jordan, called upon by defense coach Phil Bengtson to take a breather, left the scrimmage under mild protest. "Shucks, I was just getting to where I was enjoying it," Henry asserted. "Don't worry," Bengtson consoled. "Like McArthur, you'll be back."...Shaking his head in wonder in the dressing room shortly thereafter, Willie Wood said with fervor, "The next time we scrimmage, we're going to

have to charge admission. Man, they're popping out there, for the so-called third day."...Jim Kensil, NFL publicity director, and veteran sportswriter Jack Hand, out of the Associated Press' New York office, observed the p.m. practice...The morning session was not without an element of humor, which developed when Lombardi found it necessary to dispatch a stray dog from the premises. When it hovered around the practice huddle, two assistant coaches attempted to shoo it without success. Taking note of the situation, the Packer headmaster boomed, "Get outta here." Disinclined to stretch its luck, the startled canine streaked off the field, across the street and out of sight, eliciting a hearty laugh from Lombardi and the Packer cart, not to mention several hundred amused railbirds...Quip of the day: When Elijah Pitts stepped up to sing at Wednesday night's squad dinner in the St. Norbert College Memorial Union, Personnel Director Pat Peppler whispered, "Don't sing 'San Francisco,' Elijah. Howie Williams did and he wound up there."

Green Bay Press-Gazette (July 30th 1965)

RICK MARSHALL MAKES BIG (283 POUNDS) IMPRESSION

JUL 30 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Veteran occupants of the Packer defensive line are bestirring themselves with exceptional vigor these days - with good reason, or reasons. Perhaps the most prominent of these, at least from a sheer dimensional standpoint, is mountainous Rick Marshall, 283-pound freshman tackle who, appropriately enough, hails from Texas. The consensus of Packer line veterans, both offense and defense, is that the 6-4 product of Stephen F. Austin College is "the best moving big man to come to the club since we've been around." Among those the massive yearling has impressed is all-pro offensive tackle Forrest Gregg. Gregg, who has worked against Marshall frequently in the Pack's still young training camp, says, "He's a strong kid - and he's willing to work, that's for sure. He weighs about 280 and there's not an ounce of fat on him," Forrest added. "If there is, there's not very much, I'll tell you that. And for a boy his size, he's got pretty good speed." And Marshall himself? "I'd like to feel I can do the job," he says, forthrightly appending, "I've always dreamed of playing pro ball. I've got a chance now, and I'm going to give up all I've got. The way it looks you've just got to be smarter or stronger or something, to make it. It's going to be a rough job, I'll tell you that much," Rich soberly observed. "It's a much bigger jump from college to the pros, I'm finding, that it was from high school to college." The Pack's 15th draft choice last January, Marshall is the candid soul of modesty. Explaining he injured a hand and "didn't play but two or three games last season," Rich added dryly, "I was no star, I'll tell you that." Five to eight pounds over his customary playing weight ("about 275 to 278"), the king-sized rookie reported, "Coach Hanner's got me on a deal now where I lose a pound a day, so I expect to get down there in a few days. I used to drink about 4 or 5 bottles of pop after practice - now I don't drink any. That's why I couldn't lose weight." It may come as a surprise to Green Bay residents who were grousing about the heat a few days back, but Rich confided, "The weather has been the best part of it. I was working in Houston before I came here and it was 98 degrees and the humidity was 80 to 85 percent when I left. Up here, it's been 75 most of the time - that's cold to me," Marshall grinned. "That's been the best part of the whole deal." He also has found the Packer camp regimen and atmosphere much to his liking, Rich reported. "It's something different - I really like it," he declared. "All these guys here are friendly - what I mean is the veterans don't give you the impression, 'I've played a lot of football and you're just a rookie.' I knew quite a few fellows trying out with the Houston Oilers, and their situation was entirely different. The veterans there are pretty standoffish, they tell me, so I was surprised and happy to find them so friendly here."...PACKER PATTER: As indicated, Marshall is not the only rookie defensive lineman to sparkle. Dick

Herzing, 6-3, 250-pound tackle out of Drake University, broke through several times to throw ball carriers for losses in Thursday afternoon's controlled scrimmage, once decking TCU freshman Larry Bulaich four yards behind the line. Ron Heller, 6-3, 210-pound halfback from Southern Cal, also elicited bouquets for both his running and pass receiving...Paul Hornung and Jim Chandler also had their moments, each "going all the way" on one occasion...One veteran, who prefers to remain anonymous, announced following the p.m. session, "I believe we're a little further ahead than we've ever been at this point."

"UP FRONT' BATTLE? PACKER SQUAD TILT SET

JUL 31 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - And then there were seven. Days, that is, until the Packers' first formal bloodletting of the fast maturing 1965 training season, to be executed in the seventh annual Offense vs. Defense game at expanded City Stadium next Saturday night (Aug. 7). And a bloodletting, judging by recent developments at the Pack's bustling South Oneida Street football factor, it is likely to be. Although employment always is at stake in this production, since the roster will list perhaps 20 more players than will be in evidence when the Packers and their NFL brethren begin playing for keeps Sept. 19, the scramble will be somewhat more frenetic than usual - particularly up front. As per custom, both the squad and the coaching staff will be divided for the occasion, with Tom Fears, Red Cochran and Ray Wietecha, the departed Bill Austins' successor as line coach, masterminding the Offense and Phil Bengtson, Norb Hecker and Dave Hanner, who will be making his debut with the brain trust, directing the Defense. Also in keeping with tradition, Headmaster Vince Lombardi will view the proceedings as a neutral observer from the comfort of the press box. Kickoff is set for 8 o'clock...Tickets for the squad match are now available at the Packer ticket office and Ticket Director Merrill Knowlton has entered a plea to the Packer faithful, asking that as many as possible purchase theirs in advance to avoid a repetition of last year's situation, when 16,000 of the 18,000 who came descended upon the box office shortly before game time. "As a result," he pointed out, "some of them weren't able to get seated in time for the kickoff."...The roster was reduced to 60 Friday with the release of defensive tackles Al Zenko (Kent State) and Tom Johnson (Oklahoma State), both rookies. Three others, tight end Allen Brown of Mississippi, center-linebacker Bill Curry of Georgia Tech and halfback Junior Coffey of Washington, will report next Saturday following All-Star duty against the Cleveland Browns Friday night...Lombardi and his disciples proved masterful mudders Friday afternoon, toiling without letup through a half-hour downpour and intermittent showers that prevailed for the balance of the 2-hour session, accompanied by a raw, fall-like wind. There also were some hardy viewers, among them an estimated 75 who remained steadfast through the worst of it with the aid of umbrellas and blankets. And their numbers again had swelled to more than 200 before Lombardi blew the whistle at 4;30. Third-year linebacker Dave Robinson, prime candidate to succeed the departed Dan Currie on the left side, and freshman tight end Jim Thibert sparkled during the scrimmage. Robinson made several jarring tackles and drew general applause from his colleagues on the defensive platoon when he leaped high to bat down a Dennis Claridge pass on the final "play" of the afternoon. Thibert, 27-year-old Toledo U. alumnus who was with Fort Wayne in the United Football League last season, again impressed with his maneuvers and sure hands...PACKER PATTER: Little Jim (Chip) Taylor, 2 1/2-year-old son of the Packer fullback, joined his father in the Pack's new sauna room, where the temperature was about 150 degrees. After they had been cooking for a short time, Max McGee (an offseason restauranteur) drawled, "They'll be medium well in five minutes."...Today is the last day of work for Bud Herlin, a fellow townsman of (Goodlettsville, Tenn.) Packer halfback Tom Moore, who has been a dressing room aide since the start of training last Wednesday. A sought after flanker back, he is a Goodlettsville High School senior and must report for the opening of football practice Monday night. Bud had his sights set on Notre Dame, which already has evinced interest in his plans for higher education.

DRENCHED PACKERS SCRIMMAGE TO STANDOFF

AUG 1 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - "Something the matter with your legs, Symons?" The bark came from Packer Coach Vince Lombardi. "No, sir," came the answer from rookie Bill Symons, a 6-0, 200-pound halfback from Colorado. "Then run...don't mince your steps," the Packer strategist ordered as the last line of the exchange during a dummy drill early in the Saturday afternoon session on the soggy Oneida Street practice ground. About an hour later, that same Symons climaxed the first full go scrimmage of the Bays' training season by bouncing off the left side of the line and scampering into the open for the only "touchdown" of the 40-minute head-to-head clash. "That's a good one to finish upon," a seemingly happier Lombardi yelled and the Packers left the field to nurse their bruises. It was the end of a hard and wet day, the rain alternately drenching and just showering the players and spectators alike. The action also alternated between the defense and the offense with the general consensus being that the fracas was a standoff. Lombardi shuffled veterans and rookies throughout the scrimmage, but the offense's success was limited primarily to when Bart Starr was at the controls. In addition to Symons' gallop, Jim Taylor, Paul Hornung, and another rookie, Ron Heller, 6-3, 210 pounder from Southern California, managed to break off good yardage. Boyd Dowler, who slipped past the defense for a "touchdown" on a long pass in the dummy drill, came up with a picture catch on a diving, skidding maneuver along the greasy sidelines during the sock 'em action as well. Jim Thibert, the United League referee knocking on the Packer door, again drew praise for tight end work from Lombardi...Visiting the Packer training quarters over the weekend was Allen Brown, the highly regarded rookie from Mississippi, who is currently

working out with the College All-Stars. And contrary to a report that he had been injured in the All-Star camp, All-Star Assistant Coach John Sauer said in Chicago that Brown has a chronic shoulder problem, but that it hasn't bothered him in the Star camp or in the scrimmage against the Bears. The All-Stars were given the weekend off, allowing Brown's visit...Four rookies were cut by the Packers before Saturday's practice. They were quarterback Tom Hespos of C.W. Post College, defensive back Louis Williams of Iowa, halfback Larry Bulaich of Texas Christian and C.D. Lowery of Utah. The cuts reduced the squad to 38 veterans and 21 rookies, with three of the latter still with the All Stars. In addition to Brown, Bill Curry of Georgia Tech is rated a likely starter at linebacker for the Stars and Junior Coffey of Washington is being used as offensive halfback...A camp visitor Saturday was Tex Maule of Sports Illustrated...The Packers are confusing the railbirds and, hopefully, any enemy spies this year by changing the uniform numbers almost every day...Like the color picture of Ken Bowman above? He wasn't that handsome midway in the scrimmage when he displayed a full face of blood from a cut on his nose.

PACKER CORPORATION BACKS LAMBEAU FIELD

AUG 2 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Renaming of City Stadium in honor of E.L. (Curly) Lambeau was recommended today by the executive committee of the Green Bay Packers. The recommendation was sent to the Stadium Commission for consideration at its meeting this afternoon and to the city clerk for reference to the City Council at its meeting Tuesday night by Dominic Olejniczak, president of the Packer Corp. Olejniczak's statement said: "The Green Bay Packers' executive committee recommends to the City Council and the Stadium Commission unanimous approval of naming City Stadium in honor and memory of Curly Lambeau, whose foresight and success played a most vital role in firmly establishing Green Bay as a power in the NFL." Executive committee approval of the recommendation was unanimous, Olejniczak said. The other six members of the committee are Atty. Fred Trowbridge, Leslie Kelly, John B. Torinus, Tony Canadeo, Jerry Atkinson and Richard Bourguignon. The executive committee's actions follows by one week a similar recommendation to the

Stadium Commission by a special seven-man citizens committee named by the City Council. The citizens committee also agreed, if the Commission wishes, to study a proposal that a memorial building be erected to house exhibits of various types connected with the team's history. Twenty-one members of the Council have also gone on record approving the Stadium name change. At its meeting today, the Stadium Commission was expected to draft a recommendation to the Council for its Tuesday night meeting. Mr. Lambeau, who died June 1, was a founder of the team in 1919 and continued as its coach and manager through 1949. During his tenure, the team won six world championships, including a record three in a row in 1929-30-31.

PACKERS TACKLE PROTEIN

AUG 2 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - An army, they say, travels on its stomach. Even when the journey takes a combatant only as far as goal to goal at City Stadium - and the battle is fought strictly for fun and profit! In charge of supplying the favorite "troops" hereabouts (the ones in the green and gold uniforms, Junior!) with muscle building ammunition for the next five weeks or so is Loren Kingsley, who runs the food service operation at St. Norbert College. Normally, Kingsley must content himself with the challenge of balancing costs and bills-of-fare to suit the appetites of colored and collegian on the West De Pere campus. But from mid-July through Labor Day, he's free to live a little - setting a no-holds-barred training table for the Green Bay Packers!...CAREFUL PLANNING: Where does planning begin, when you're building endurance and speed for a whole season of NFL play? "Packer meals center on high protein main courses - beef, chicken and fish - unlimited quantities of fresh fruits, and dairy products," answers Kingsley, who checks out menus for approval with Pat Peppler, personnel director for the hometown team, before passing them for interpretation in the kitchen. Preparation is important, too, he points out. Meats are roasted or broiled, not fried; vegetables are served simply dressed with butter. Gravies and sauces never reach the table; pie or cake is reserved for a once-a-week treat. And a concentrated protein supplement is offered around the clock. Of the 60-plus regulars and hopefuls currently queuing up in the cafeteria line, about 45 will still be around for three squares on Labor Day. Soon afterward, they'll depart one fine morning for the green pastures of playing fields, and by afternoon the premises will be crowded with incoming students...TYPICAL MENU: Want to try eating like a Packer? Then order from the following menu, based on a typical day: For breakfast, fresh fruit puled high in a bowl; chilled juices; cheese omelet with bacon; toast and cherry muffins. Lunch will bring a cup of beef broth with barley for a starter, followed by cold roast turkey, cold cuts, and cheese slices, for that protein punch. Lettuce and tomato salad, jellied fruit or vegetable salad, cottage cheese, breads and rolls and butter will also be available, with pear halves in syrup, a fresh fruit bowl and iced tea or lemonade also there for the taking. Dinner? Roast round of beef for the meat course, or broiled T-bone steak; stuffed backed potation, stewed tomatoes and buttered fresh spinach. Salad will be tossed of raw vegetables, with ice cream or sherbet offered for desert. Anybody trying for champion? Obviously, the road starts at the refrigerator!

BROWN UNDERGOES SURGERY, LOST TO PACK

AUG 3 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - The Packers today lost their "No. 1" draft choice indefinitely. Allen Brown, 6-4 1/2, 230-pound tight end from the University of Mississippi, underwent surgery on his right shoulder at St. Vincent Hospital this morning, Coach Vince Lombardi announced. Although there was no official estimate on his 1965 availability, there was knowledgeable speculation that Brown may not be ready until midseason, if at all. Brown reported to the Pack from the College All-Star camp over the weekend with an injured shoulder, Lombardi explained, adding, "After an examination, Dr. Nellen (Dr. James W. Nellen, team physician) decided immediate surgery was necessary." This development dealt a body blow to the '65 phase of Green Bay's youth movement for, although officially the Packers' No. 3 choice in last January's collegiate draft, Brown emerged as the premier signee after Nos. 1 and 2 (Larry Elkins of Baylor and Grambling's Alphonse Dotson) were lost to the AFL. Barring personnel switches, it also set the stage for a two-man struggle behind Marv Fleming, heir to the departed Ron Kramer's tight end spot, with Jim Thibert of Toledo U., and the United Football League, and Wofford's John Housel as the principals. Brown, one of three Packer draftees in the All-Star camp (center-linebacker Bill Curry of Georgia Tech and Washington halfback Junior Coffey are the others), will not be officially added to the roster until he has been pronounced ready to play, Lombardi revealed. His loss at least temporarily reduces the overall squad to 57, including 38 veterans. This figure includes Coffey and Curry, who are scheduled to report Saturday, following Friday night's match between the world champion Cleveland Browns and the All-Stars in Chicago's Soldier Field. Both Thibert and Housel have impressed the Packer brain trust to date with their blocking skill, a prime requisite at T.E., and sure hands. Physically, there is little to choose between them, since Thibert is 6-4, 240, Housel 6-4 and 230. The Packers narrowly escaped further adversity when Defensive Capt. Hank Gremminger crumpled to the turf as he was "sandwiched" in attempting to pile up an end sweep midway through a bruising scrimmage. Assisted from the field by Trainer Bud Jorgensen and Aide Dominic Gentile, Gremminger sat on the balance of the session with a bandaged right knee but was able to walk up to the dressing room and later was able to walk without any serious difficulty. The doctor reported Gremminger suffered a slight knee strain. Although he was dressed for today's practice, Gremminger did not take part in the drills. An eight-yard "touchdown" sweep by Paul Hornung and Don Chandler's first formal Packer field goal capped the crackling workout, which ran 10 minutes overtime. Hornung's successful sortie was triggered by Dan (Charlie Tuna) Grimm, who exploded the last defenders from Paul's path with a devastating block. A 40-yard stroke, Chandler's boot would easily have cleared from the 45 and, to the collective delight of the Packer entourage, soared exactly between two wires installed five feet apart at the center of the crossbar to encourage accuracy. Acrobatic Herb Adderley and his new defensive colleague, Bob Jeter, also contributed some heroics, Adderley waylaying a Zeke Bratkowski pass in the flat and streaking "the distance" while Jeter leaped high to deflect a long sideline pitch from the straining hands of Boyd Dowler. Rookie halfbacks Ron Heller (USC) and Bill Symons (Colorado), continuing to impress, likewise had their moments, hitting with both speed and authority...PACKER PATTER: Seven of the Packers' eight area scouts were guests at Monday's drills, including former Packer head coach Liz Blackbourn and ex-defensive end Nate Borden. With them were Johnny Mauer, Jack (Moose) Myers, Brad Ecklund, Lefty James and Ed Rutledge. Like Borden, Ecklund and Myers are former pro gridders, Ecklund with the Baltimore Colts and Myers with the Los Angeles Rams. In the wake of a thunderous collision, viewer Borden incredulously queried of bystander Ray Nitschke, "You mean I did that? Not me," he grinned, 'chicken as I am." Another interested observer was Billy Kinard, a former Packer defensive back (1957-58), who is now a member of the Florida University staff...Pleased with "the hitting," Lombardi declared, "We've got a bunch of good, tough football players."

LAMBEAU FIELD SUPPORTED BY STADIUM UNIT

AUG 3 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - The Green Bay Stadium Commission Monday recommended City Stadium be renamed Lambeau Field in honor of the founder of the Packers. The commission's unanimous recommendation will go to the City Council tonight for action. Thus the commission joins the Packer Executive Committee and a seven-member citizens' committee in favor of renaming the stadium. In addition, 21 members of the Council signed a petition favoring the renaming. The commission also held for further study its recent proposal to build a museum to honor E.L. (Curly) Lambeau. In a written statement issued before the meeting, the commission said it had to give weight to the following propositions before making a recommendation:

Would it be proper and fitting to change the name of the stadium which had been dedicated to the taxpayers of Green Bay?
Should the matter be held open until it is determined whether the stadium should be renamed Del Marcelle Stadium in order that the city qualify for an estimated $250,000 from the estate of the late Dr. Clarence Del Marcelle?
Would a suitable Lambeau memorial structure erected at the stadium be a fitting homage to the deceased coach?

The statement also said that the Del Marcelle estate allows that after certain bequests the remainder was to be placed in trust and the income distribution to heirs. Upon the death of the last heir, the city was to receive the principal for the construction of a West side stadium within a year after the death of the last heir. If the city did not meet these conditions, the principal was to be turned over to the Marquette University medical school. The statement also said that in 1960 then aldermen Thomas Atkinson proposed renaming the stadium in honor of Lambeau, but after the commission discussion, he conceded the stadium name should not interfere with the receipt of the money. The commission did not want to "belabor the question of the Del Marcelle estate," the statement continued, "because it seemed in bad taste to speculate as to when the last surviving legatee would pass away." The statement also noted that the official name of the stadium was Green Bay City Stadium.

LIONS INK KRAMER; TOP PICK TO PACK

AUG 4 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - The celebrated "Ron Kramer Case," at long last, has been resolved. But not, apparently, entirely to the Packers' satisfaction. Kramer, who played out his option last season and announced that he henceforth would play for the Detroit Lions or no one, finally realized his ambition Tuesday night when the Lions signed him to a one-year contract - as a defensive end. As compensation for signing the 30-year-old veteran of seven pro seasons, the Lions tendered their first choice in next January's NFL draft to the Packers, with the approval of Commissioner Pete Rozelle. Packer Coach Vince Lombardi announced, in this connection, that, "The decision of the commissioner that Ron Kramer be awarded to Detroit in return for a draft choice is under no circumstances to be understood to be a trade, but rather a decision by the commissioner." League rules stipulate that when a player plays out his option and subsequently is signed by another team, his new team must compensate his old club with a player of comparable value. Kramer, the Packers' No. 1 pick in the 1956 draft, expressed elation from his Royal Oak, Mich., home, asserting: "It's tremendous. Everything has worked out tremendously." He also had nothing but praise for the Packers and Lombardi. The 245-pound former All-American said he "enjoyed every minute" of his Green Bay stay, which included contribution to consecutive world titles in 1961 and 1962. "But, right now, I'm looking forward to many

good seasons in Detroit with the Lions and with Harry Gilmer," Kramer added. Gilmer, defense coach of the Minnesota Vikings last season, succeeded George Wilson as coach of the Lions during the winter. In announcing that Kramer had signed a one-year agreement, Gilmer disclosed that the longtime defensive end would start training today on defense. This decision was dictated by the presence of Jim Gibbons, one of the league's premier tight ends, who speared 45 passes for 605 yards and eight touchdowns last season, a performance which caused him to be voted the Lions' most valuable player. Kramer's best year with the Pack was 1962, when he picked off 37 passes, good for 55 yards and seven touchdowns, as the Bays forged to a second straight world crown. As late as Monday, it was rumored out of the Motor City that the East Detroit native, who officially became a free agent May 1, has decided to retire. He earlier had announced that he would call it a career if Detroit could not find a place for him and, until Tuesday, the Lions had evinced no official interest in his services. Explaining his decision to leave Green Bay, Kramer said, "There were family problems that simply made it imperative that I be with my family all year around. I just couldn't play for any other team." He said one of his two sons, 6-year-old Curtis, suffered an eye injury last year. The boy since has undergone one operation and may need another. "After my early years with Green Bay, I hinted a couple of times that I had to play with the Lions because I wanted to be with my family full time in Detroit," he added. Rumors that Kramer wanted to return to Detroit has persisted since his college graduation in 1957, when he was reported considering an offer from the Detroit Pistons of the NBA. The Pistons' fourth draft choice that year, 6-foot-3 Kramer won three of his nine University of Michigan letters as a basketball center...The Packers today trimmed their roster to 56 by releasing Jim Chandler, rookie halfback from Benedict (South Carolina) College. The squad now includes 38 veterans, 18 freshmen, including center-linebacker Bill Curry and halfback Junior Coffey, currently with the College All-Stars...PACKER PATTER: Highlight of Tuesday afternoon's S. Oneida Street session, witnessed by more than 500 rapt railbirds, came when Bart Starr nested a 50-yard "touchdown" in the arms of Boyd Dowler, one step in the van of Doug Hart. Earlier, the offensive line, particularly veteran Fuzzy Thurston, sparkled in a skeleton scrimmage with some highly incisive blocking. Rookie halfback Bill Symons, one of the camp's more effective rookie ball carriers, used the holes to good advantage on more than one occasion, as did fellow freshman Ron Heller of Southern Cal.

PERSONALITY PARADE

AUG 4 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - A man of pride and purpose beneath a customarily devil-may-care facade, Paul Hornung insists he long since has consigned the frustrations of 1964 to the past. The flamboyant Golden Boy, beset by both artistic and physical problems last season in coming off a year's suspension, dismisses them with an expressive shrug of the shoulders, which he articulated by appending, "I always look to the future." Hornung, who along with 54 teammates, will make his first formal 1965 appearance in Saturday night's intra-squad game at newly-expanded City Stadium, added, "I never look back. Once you start looking back, you start second-guessing yourself." The forthright Louisville resident, obviously committed to regaining the plateau he scaled in the championship years of 1961-62, during which he shattered the NFL individual scoring record, had reference to such items as 26 field goal misses in 35 tires which, he is all too painfully aware, loomed large in 1964's final accounting. Refusing to be shaken by these trials, the 29-year-old bon vivant instead looks to the immediate future with considerable optimism. Shrugging off the suggestion that "pressure" might have adversely affected his performance, he explained, "I didn't feel any pressure last year - you don't think that way, but I feel a lot better this season. Maybe it's because I came up three weeks early to work out last year, but I've always had better seasons when I work myself into shape, rather than coming to camp like I did. I wasn't worn down to a frazzle, but I played four or five games at 212 or 213, which is a little too light for me. Now I'm weighing out at 221 every day and in at 216. This year, I want to work into the best shape I can, as soon as I can, but not so fast that it's going to wear me down." This prompted him to add, with obvious satisfaction, "These isotonic and isometric exercises we've been doing in practice have helped my neck. It feels better than it has for two or three years." Thus far, there has been only one cause for concern. Hornung further confided, "My right ankle is a little weak - I turned it while I was playing squash back home about a month ago - and kicking when I first got here didn't help any, but once I get back in shape, I'll start kicking again. I think a weak ankle was a big part of my trouble last year," Paul added by way of explanation. "I noticed it when I was kicking that my foot wobbled. I think it dates back to the time I hurt my knee real bad in 1962." Had the Packers' offseason acquisition of kicking specialist Don Chandler given him any pause? "Well, naturally, I'd like to kick, if I can kick," the ex-Notre Dame luminary confided, soberly adding, "but I wouldn't like to have a year like I did last year. I'll start kicking again as soon as I can and see what happens. If it doesn't work out, then I just want to do whatever is best for the team. As far as last year is concerned, I don't even want to think about it," Paul declared. "That's in the past." Convinced that the '65 Pack is "further progressed than we've ever been before at this point," Hornung says he has only one ambition - and it's a modest objective for one of his acknowledged talents. Weary of contending with the pinched nerve that has plagued him for part of two seasons, he announced, "I just want to play, that's all. I'd just like to play one more year without getting hurt. The only personal goal I have," Hornung concluded, "is playing on one more championship team."

STADIUM CHANGED TO LAMBEAU FIELD

AUG 4 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Green Bay City Stadium was renamed Lambeau Field Tuesday night by a unanimous City Council roll call. After eight weeks of avoiding a vote and the offering of a substitute proposal, it took the Council just three minutes and five seconds to rename the stadium for E.L.(Curly) Lambeau, the founder and first coach of the Packers, who died June 1. There was no council debate. The only Council comment was the opinion of Ald. Francis Hessell that Lambeau Stadium would sound better than Lambeau Field on television. Lambeau Field was the name suggested by a citizen committee and was passed on to the Council by the Stadium Commission...THREE PARAGRAPHS: The commission reported its recommendation to the Council in a three paragraph report to the citizen committee's proposal. The committee was named by the Council July 6 to examine the idea of a museum-type building at the stadium as a tribute to Lombardi. "The committee considered the alternative of renaming the stadium or endorsing the erection of a suitable memorial building. The citizen committee unanimous endorsed the idea of renaming the stadium Lambeau Field and proposed that the question of erection of a memorial building be taken up a later time. Inasmuch as the citizens committee was formed to make a firm recommendation to the Stadium Commission and has done do, your Stadium Commission now recommends to the Common Council that the stadium be renamed Lambeau Field," the

commission reported...NO RESOLUTION: After the Council unanimously adopted the report, Ald. Donald MacDonald noted that no following resolution had been prepared for the session to complete the formal action. Mayor Donald Tilleman instructed Richard Greenwood, assistant city attorney, to write a resolution. The two sentence resolution noted the accepted commission report and said that, "therefore Green Bay City Stadium be renamed Lambeau Field." The Council act provided no direction to the citizen committee on whether the proposal for a museum-type building at the stadium should be the topic of continued study...COMMITTEE MEMBERS: The members of the citizen committee were Charles Brock, Andy Uram and Arnie Herber, who played on Lambeau coached teams, John Torinus, a representative of the Packer Corp. executive committee, and David Yeunger, Ben Laird and Haydn Evans, representing Green Bay press, radio and television. The committee report said it believed there was widespread agreement on the part of Green Bay citizens that the stadium should be renamed for Lambeau because his name "has been synonymous with the founding and long and illustrious history of the Packers." In a background report prepared for its meeting Monday, the Stadium Commission pointed out that the City Council in 1957 agreed on the name Green Bay City Stadium and agreed it "be dedicated to the Green Bay taxpayers, who overwhelmingly endorsed the bond issue."

DUELS FOR VACATED POSTS HIGHLIGHT INTRA-SQUAD 'GO'

AUG 5 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - There will be several intriguing sidelights to the Packers' annual intra-squad game in newly rechristened Lambeau Field Saturday night, not the least of which will be a rapidly developing duel for Jesse Whittenton's vacant cornerback post. Talented Doug Hart, a competent fill-in there on occasion last season when Whittenton was shelved with injuries, was the obvious heir apparent as the Pack went to camp July 21. But jet-like Bob Jeter, transferred from flanker to defense in offseason planning, has elbowed his way into the picture in recent days, adapting to his new role with surprising ease and considerable fervor. In fact, the 28-year-old University of Iowa product has come so fast it now appears highly probably the jury will be out on the starting assignment until the Pack's NFL inaugural at Pittsburgh, Sept. 19. Another item of particular note 48 hour hence will be the contest between Jim Thibert, 25-year-old refugee from the United Football League, and rookie John Housel of Wofford for the right to understudy monolithic Marv Fleming, Ron Kramer's successor at tight end. Coach Vince Lombardi and his aides also are likely to evince more than passing interest in the efforts of offensive tackle Steve Wright, who at this point appears destined to replace the retired Norm Masters at right tackle. Waiting in the wings if he should falter, however, are Lloyd Voss, the heroically hewn Minnesotan who has been alternating between guard and tackle, and Eli Strand, 6-2, 250-pound freshman from Iowa State. The Packer faithful likewise will find a familiar face in an unfamiliar area. Boyd Dowler, occupant of the Bays' right flank all of his seven-year pro career, currently is sharing the left side with Max McGee and will alternate there Saturday night. Newcomer Carroll Dale, acquired from the Los Angeles Rams in exchange for Dan Currie, has been holding forth at Dowler's old station. Dale, who will be formally introduced to Packerland, has been changing off with Bob Long, the rangy sophomore from Vandergrift, Pa., who has made remarkable strides since last season...If the intra-squad match approximates Wednesday afternoon's full scale scrimmage in flair and fury, it should be a slightly spectacular evening. Thunderous thudding, which elicited a broad smile from Lombardi, characterized yesterday's 45-minute session on South Oneida Street, also spiced by the defensive heroics of sophomores John McDowell, Tommy Crutcher, Tom Brown and Doug Hart, and the offensive contributions of Long and veterans Jim Taylor and Elijah Pitts. The defense, as expected, dominated the first half of the scrimmage, but the offense began to assert itself shortly past the mid-point and finished strong, hammering home a pair of touchdowns to climax the contact. Pitts, who later ruefully confided, "They got a little nasty out there," swept his own right end from 12 yards out for the first "TD" and Bart Starr pitched a 7-yard strike down the middle to Dowler for the second, which thus became the final play of the afternoon. In addition to contributing that touchdown, Pitts twice rebounded from resounding tackles to churn for substantial gains, one of them a 15 yard jaunt. Top defensive highlight was a Willie Wood "tip" of a pass, which fellow defender Hart quickly converted into an interception. Picking off the ball head high, Doug returned it seven yards. Evaluating the overall performance, Lombardi was pleased to observe, "There was some good hitting out there." Indicating that it had gone about as he had expected, the Packer headmaster pointed out, "If the offense had run over the defense, then we would be in trouble. They (the defense) have seen this stuff for six or seven years now,

so if they couldn't stop it, it would be time to worry. I don't think we're nearly as polished as we might be," he concluded, "but that will come."...The 54-man squad, not including College All-Stars Bill Curry and Junior Coffey, has been officially divided for Saturday night's production, which will find the Offense seeking its fourth victory, compared to two defeats and a tie, in the "series." Red Cochran, Tom Fears and Ray Wietcha will mastermind the Offense, Phil Bengston, Norb Hecker and Dave Hanner the Defense, while Lombardi views the proceedings from the press box as a neutral observer...PACKER PATTER: "You did a lot of good running out there," Bob Long told rookie halfback Bill Symons (Colorado) following the scrimmage. To which Symonds, sporting a smear of blood on his right cheek as a combat souvenir, replied with a wry smile, "I got scrunched a lot, too.". Every member of the defensive platoon hit with audible authority, but linebacker Tommy Crutcher repeatedly drew murmurs of admiration with his resounding zest for contact...All eight ticket windows on the east side of the stadium and four on the west will open for business at 6 o'clock Saturday night, two hours prior to the intra-squad game, Ticket Director Merrill Knowlton announces. Ticket also will be available at the Packer ticket office, adjacent to the stadium, throughout the day.

PERSONALITY PARADE

AUG 5 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Vince Lombardi, understandably, put it in nicer words but what he said in effect was, "We was robbed.," regarding the Ron Kramer case. Kramer, after playing out his option with the Packers last year, insisted he wanted to play with no other team than Detroit. The Lions finally decided to sign the hulking ex-Michigan star and were then bound by league rules to compensate the Packers with a "player of comparable value." But the Packers did not receive a player of comparable value. As a matter of fact, they didn't receive a player of any kind. The Packers did get

the Lions' first draft choice in this fall's choosing of collegians, but this does not even guarantee the Packers will receive a rookie. Remember Larry Elkins, Alphonse Dotson, etc. What Lombardi said about it was, "The decision of the commissioner that Ron Kramer be awarded to Detroit in return for a draft choice is under no circumstances to be understood to be a trade but rather a decision by the commissioner." Yah, Coach, we was robbed...The Answer Man: To Green Bay Packers Supporter (People's Form, Monday, Aug. 2) - You have a good point regarding the Eastern Division teams in Green Bay. The last one to play a regular season game here was Dallas in 1960, and that was the year the Cowboys played every team in the league, The Redskins were here in 1959. But my feelings on the Packer's schedule were expressed earlier this year. I don't think it is right for the GREEN BAY Packers to play their opening game in Milwaukee. Particularly when it is the Western Division champion Colts, the team to beat, they will be playing. Of course, this observation was made before the announcement of the Cardinal exhibition game in Green Bay the week before the season opener. But the observation still stands. An exhibition, or preseason, if you prefer, is still an exhibition.

PACK SEEKING 'LONG' PUNT RETURNS

AUG 6 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - If one of the Packers' punt returners looked unfamiliar to the railbirds in Thursday's maiden kicking clinic of the season, he should have. It was lanky Bob Long, identified as a flanker with the 1964 Pack, which he joined out of Wichita University as a "seven-game wonder." Long, who shared the assignment with the Messrs. Willie Wood, Elijah Pitts, Tom Brown and Bill Symons in yesterday's lengthy punting practice, reported, "I worked there a little bit last season, but it was so briefly that it's hardly worth mentioning." Bob, an articulate, ambitious young citizen, is pleased with the opportunity, but regards it primarily as a means to an end. "It helps my pass receiving a lot," he explained, pointing out, "If you can catch one of those long, high Don Chandler punts - or any of the others - it sure helps your pass receiving. I want to be more than a punt receiver," Long says gently but firmly. "I want to be a good flanker." If he attains that goal, and there already is abundant evidence he is well on the way, it will be a happy climax to a football fairy tale...EXPERIMENTAL PATTERN: As the 23-year-old greyhound dryly points out, "You talk about a guy who thought he was out of place, with all these great football players, it was me when I reported here a year ago in July. I had played college football only as a senior, and I didn't get into the first two games that season - they didn't think I was ready. Finally, I got a break and things went all right from there on. It's kind of a funny thing,"

Long added. "They didn't want me to block, so they set me out there at flanker and all I did was catch passes. They used to tell me to run experimental patterns." Turning again to his new assignment, he ventured, "I enjoy it - I enjoy anything I can do that might help the team. I want to play awful bad. So far, I've been working behind Carroll Dale (he played behind Max McGee last season). Anything I can do to improve myself and help the ball club is what's important. I really don't think I'll be bringing puts back very often with fellows like Willie Wood and Elijah Pitts around - they're the best in the league, but if the time should ever some that I would be needed, I want to be ready. Of course, we didn't have any contact out there today," Long admitted with a grin, "so that'll be another story when you'll have some big linemen coming down on you for keeps. It's pretty easy to stand out there when you don't have to worry about being taken apart. There's a lot more to it than strike's a person's eye," Bob continued. "You have to work with the other punt receiver, you have to watch the ball and, if your partner calls for it, you have to judge whether he should call for a fair catch. If he does fair catch it, you have to be there in case of a fumble to help out and, if he doesn't fair catch it, you have to block the first man coming down." Pausing to compare '64 with '65, Long added, "I was lost out there last year. That's the big difference. I think I can do the job this year." There was not, it might be added, any hesitancy in advance of this declaration, or a waver in the steady, brown-eyed gaze. There's been one other change. Bob, known to his colleagues as "Bullet" and "Cornflakes," cracked in conclusion, "Max (McGee) talks to me now. I guess it's because we're on the same unit now." Throttling down ever so slightly after 2 1/2 weeks of grueling drills, the Packers devoted Thursday afternoon to executing plays and pass patterns to be used in Saturday night's intra-squad match at Lambeau Field. In addition to punting practice, the morning session featured Don Chandler's first formal workout with the field goal unit - and it was highly successful. Chandler drilled 10 straight through the uprights, five from 25 yards directly out front and another five from a sharp, 17-yard angle. An interested spectator for the third straight day was defensive capt. Hank Gremminger, who tested his injured right knee intermittently along the sidelines. Gremminger, hurt in Monday afternoon's scrimmage, is a doubtful starter Saturday night.

PERSONALITY PARADE

AUG 6 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - When you are a rookie competing with such as Paul Hornung, Jim Taylor, Tom Moore and Elijah Pitts for major league employment, it is necessary, of course, to be somewhat realistic. Like Bill Symons, the quick, hard-hitting freshman from Colorado, who has impressed the Packer family with his explosive getaway and obvious yen for contact, among other things, despite the fact he had no collegiate experience as a running back. How, after two weeks in camp, does he evaluate his chances? Symons flashed a crooked grin and replied, "It's kind of depressing. When you look at the backs they've got here, you have to feel that way realistically. I feel the Packers have four of the best running backs in the league in Hornung, Taylor, Moore and Pitts. I don't know what more any team could ask for."...GENUINE COMPETITOR: Obviously a genuine competitor, Symons is far from despondent, however. Observing "I knew I had a lot to learn, but I didn't realize how little I knew," the 22-year-old native of Nucla, Colo,. (pop. 700) took an optimistic tact adding, "But I guess you can see a little progress every day." Which prompted him to explain, "I wasn't a running back at Colorado last year - I was a blocker and pass receiver. So I have just everything to learn - I was stationed at the wing all the time, right outside the end, so I was just blocking all the time." His conversion to ball carrier may have been "a little easier," the crew-cut Coloradan conceded in this connection "because I didn't have any bad habits to unlearn as a ball carrier." Shaking his head in wonder, he appended, "I didn't know this game could be so involved - that there were so many little technical things." Vince Lombardi's famed system of "complex simplicity" and the abundance of competition are not the only challenging items, Bill also noted. "I expected it to be tough," he imparted with a wry smile, "but the whole game is a lot tougher than I expected."...HIT A LOT HARDER: And the contact? "Yeah, they hit a heckuva lot harder up there, too," Symons said, adding philosophically, "but that's just something you get used to, I guess." There has been an informal suggestion that Symons might be tried out on defense, an assignment of which he has only painful collegiate memories. "When I was a sophomore, we lost 22 players in the cribbing scandal and 14 of them would have been on the first two teams. I played defense that season and it kind of put the pressure on us," Bill said, concluding with a rueful grin, "like 55 to 0, 60 to 0..."

PACK BOWS TONIGHT IN 'SQUAD' GAME

AUG 7 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Vince Lombardi, cracking the whip with his 1959 abandon, formally introduces his 1965 Packers to the faithful in newly-expanded Lambeau Field tonight. The seventh annual Offense vs. Defense game, with kickoff set for 8 o'clock, will showcase the 54 hopefuls Lombardi has been diligently exercising on adjacent South Oneida Street since July 22. Tonight's cast, which well may be the soundest the ex-Block of Granite ever has assembled, will consist of 38 veterans and 16 rookies. Two other freshmen, center-linebacker Bill Curry of Georgia Tech and halfback Junior Coffey of Washinton, who joined the Pack today following Friday night's All-Star game, will watch the proceedings from the bench before being officially indoctrinated Monday morning. Defensive Capt. Hank Gremminger, who has been hobbled by stretched ligaments in his right knee since being broadsided in Monday afternoon's scrimmage, and Jerry Kramer, still recuperating from multiple surgeries, also will sit out. As per custom, Lombardi will view the action from the press box while his aides direct the rival squads. Red Cochran, Tom Fears and new line coach Ray Wietecha, successor to Bill Austin, will handle the offense, and Phil Bengtson, Norb Hecker and player-coach Dave Hanner the defense. Under the rules, the Offense will put the ball in play from the 20-yard line and proceed until forced to punt. When the Defense acquires possession via punt, interception or fumble, the second offense and defense

defensive units will take over at the point the defender is brought to earth. To avoid delay, however, the Offense will reverse its position each time and head in the opposition direction. All of which means, of course, that the Defense will be able to score only going all the way with an interception, fumble or a punt. Surprisingly enough, considering the disparity in opportunity, the Offense holds a mere 3-2-1 edge in the "series," launched when Lombardi arrived in 1959. The Offense, for example, squeezed out a 6-0 decision last year and surrendered a 13-6 verdict in 1963 when Willie Wood streaked the distance with an interception. There also has been a scoreless tie. There is likely to be heavier pressure on the Defense tonight, however, with fleet Carroll Dale, acquired from the Los Angeles Rams in the Dan Currie trade, sharing the right flank with a vastly improved Bob Long and Boyd Dowler and Max McGee alternating on the left side. In addition to Dale and the 16 freshmen, kicking specialist Don Chandler, obtained from the New York Giants over the winter, also will be making his formal bow in Green Bay silks. Chandler, who has sparkled both as a punter and placekicker since practice opened, is likely to be called upon early in the evening to perform either or both of his specialties...Because the intra-squad game customarily enjoys a heavy gate sale, ticket director Merrill Knowlton was unable to venture an educated guess on the size of tonight's crowd. Last year's match drew 18,000 fans, 16,000 of whom purchased their tickets at the gate. The ticket windows on both the east and west sides of the stadium will open at 6 o'clock, Knowlton said.

WOULDN'T TRADE COGDILL

AUG 7 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Would Gail Cogdill have been "comparable value" for Ron Kramer? Apparently Packer Coach Vince Lombardi thought so. That's who Lombardi wanted in exchange ("under no circumstances to be considered a trade") for Kramer when Ron played out his option and insisted he wanted to play only for Detroit. "He's been in love with Cogdill as a player for years," Lion Coach Harry Gilmer told the Detroit News. "But I didn't feel I could accommodate him on a trade." The Detroit paper also reported that Lion-Packer trade talks last December had Tom Moore going to the Motor City for Cogdill. The Lions were sorely tempted but the deal fell through when Detroit failed to sign its No. 3 draft choice, hotshot receiver Fred Biletnikoff of Florida State...DECIDED TO PAY: Gilmer said he knew of no pressure on Lombardi from the commissioner's office but admitted that Pete Rozelle did enter the negotiations. "He (Rozelle) told me what the price would be for Kramer, and I decided to pay it," Gilmer said. Kramer had appealed to Rozelle to step in because of his "hardship" case. Ron contended that he could no longer be separated from his wife and children, one of whom has a serious eye ailment. At the All-Star game in Chicago Friday night, though, Rozelle indicated that he had nothing to do with it. "This was agreed upon by both teams," the commissioner said. "I have no way of arbitrating a decision unless a team signs such a player without the other team's consent." After the negotiations were completed and Kramer was officially a Lion, so official that he had already been bumped around in a first practice scrimmage, Ron volunteered, "This whole situation is a fine compliment to the NFL. It was handled with class. I feel sort of strange here. It's eerie after so many years with the Packers. But I've always wanted to play in Detroit. They've done me a big favor."...NOTHING BUT RESPECT: "I've got nothing but respect for Green Bay and Vince Lombardi," the former Michigan All-American added. "I had some great years there." As to his switch to defensive end in light of the fact that Detroit has Jim Gibbons in the blocking end spot, Kramer offered, "It feels strange. I don't know yet how I'll like it. But I'm glad to have a job."...Detroit News columnist Pete Waldmeier offers this comment: "Kramer's arrival underscores another point. The Packers are gradually going to seed. So far this year, Norm Masters, Jesse Whitenton, Hawg Hanner and Jerry Norton have retired. Kramer and linebacker Dan Currie have been traded (there's that word again) and guard Jerry Kramer is ill. In all, 11 of the 22 starters from the 1962 Packers' NFL champions have retired or been traded away by Lombardi. Maybe someday they'll be a soft touch again."

CHANDLER BOOSTS FIVE FIELD GOALS IN 29-0 OFFENSE WIN

AUG 8 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Balding, sure-footed Don Chandler, a masterful mudder, found himself a home in a soggy, bespattered "rechristening" of Lambeau Field Saturday night. Chandler, pilfered from the New York Giants over the winter, drilled five consecutive field goals through the uprights, the last a king-sized 48-yard liner, in keying the Offense to a 29-0 decision over the Defense under somewhat less than ideal conditions in the annul Packer in intra-squad game. After Chandler's talented toe had mounted a 15-0 lead early in the fourth quarter with slightly over 10,000 drenched customers looking on, the white-clad attacking platoon proceeded to collect a pair of "instant" touchdowns, one on a 22-yard strike from Zeke Bratkowski to sterling sophomore Bob Long and the other on a 16-yard Dennis Claridge pitch to the accomplished ex-Ram Carroll Dale. Chandler, who missed a 39-yard effort in the early minutes of the first quarter before finding the range, subsequently connected from 19 yards out late in the same period, added 22 and 23-yard bullseyes in the second, hit from the 37 in the third quarter, then embroidered his performance with that 48-yard boomer early in the final quarter. As a bonus, he connected on both extra points. The Bratkowski-to-Long collaboration, a picture play, climaxed a 57-yard push. Leading his man expertly, "The Brat" hit Long directly under the crossbar and in front of defender Larry Moore. Claridge and Dale worked a somewhat similar maneuver in what became the final play of the night by Coach Vince Lombardi's decree. Slanting in from the right, Dale snared Claridge's waist-high bullet, a split second ahead of encroaching defender Herb Adderley, on the two-yard line and stepped into the end zone untouched. Although all of the

hands responded nobly under the conditions, it was hardly a fair test for either unit. The footing was consistently precarious and produced a goodly collection of titters for the sodden spectators as the combatants splashed and slithered over the soggy turf but, fortunately, no injuries of consequence. Veteran flanker Max McGee was helped off the field after a collision in the early going, but the injury later was described as "only a thigh bruise." Rain, which had drenched the field long before game time, fell throughout the match. It came down in torrents throughout much of the first half, forcing cancellation of plans for an intermission, and never stopped completely during the 75-minute exercise...TAYLOR GOES 28: As might be expected, warhorse Jim Taylor emerged as the night's foremost ground gainer, shading rookie Bill Symons for the honor. The Bayou Bronco, fully recovered from 1964's bout with hepatitis, barged for 52 yards in 8 carries, including a 28-yard sideline sortie in the fourth quarter that was the longest run of the night. Symons, 6-foot, 201-pound recruit from Colorado, churned for 50 yards in seven carries, including a 21-yard sweep that set the stage for Chandler's second field goal early in the second quarter. He also caught two passes for 30 yards. Another freshman, Ron Heller, likewise sparkled with 33 yards in 7 carries, and Claridge exhibited uncommon scrambling skill, careening for gains of 12, 14 and 19 yards when forced to abandon passing plans. The strapping sophomore also was on target when he found pitching possible, connecting on five of seven tosses for 49 yards. Bratkowski connected on four of eight attempts for 64 yards and Bart Starr three of seven for 42 yards. Despite the one-sided score, the Defense obviously had its moments, since the Attackers were restricted to those five field goals until the final quarter. Two of the brightest resistance efforts came in the first quarter when sophomore John McDowell burst through to hurl Claridge for an 11-yard loss, and all-pro Willie Davis decked Bratkowski for a 9-yard deficit shortly thereafter. Their final taste of glory came in the fourth quarter when, with the Offense needing a yard on fourth down, monolithic Lee Roy Caffey and Davis combined to halt Tom Moore a foot short.

'REAL GOOD,' LOMBARDI SAYS

AUG 8 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Patently pleased, Vince Lombardi termed Saturday night's rain-soaked Offense vs. Defense game "a real good, hard-hitting scrimmage under the conditions." Lombardi, who viewed the production from the press box as a neutral observer, added, "I thought we moved the ball well, al considering the conditions. We didn't get it across the goal line too often, but we moved it well." Turning to the performance of game standout Don Chandler, he said, with satisfaction, "It's obvious what Chandler did. What more can I add?" Asked about the first half injury to veteran end Max McGee, Lombardi replied, "Max is all right. He just got a bruised thigh." Had the performance given him any clues as to the Pack's potential '65 success? The Packer headmaster smiled and rejoined, "That's hard to determine, when you're playing against yourself, it's hard to determine. We looked quick at times, in fact we looked very quick at times. But its' a difficult game to play, when you're playing yourself. It's almost double jeopardy. I do feel very fortunate getting through it without any injuries." Queried about his assignment of sophomore quarterback Dennis Claridge's performance, Lombardi noted, " He pulled the ball down and ran with it real well - and, of course, he threw for one touchdown. So he did well."

10 PACKER ROOKIES ON OFFENSE; TWO CUT

AUG 9 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Slowly drying out in the wake of Saturday's intra-squad aquacade, the Packers today thinned their ranks to 54 before directing their attention to the Giants. Offensive guard Joe (Buddy) Eilers of Texas A&M and defensive tackle Charles Harris, out of Tennessee A&I, were placed on waivers, Coach Vince Lombardi announced, thus reducing the Pack's rookie roster to 16. The total includes late arrivals Bill Curry and Junior Coffey, who checked in Saturday after taking part in the College All-Stars' 24-16 misadventure with the world champion Cleveland Browns. Curry and Coffey both made token appearances in the intra-squad production, the former officiating at center on most of the punt and field goal snaps, and the latter lending a hand on platoons. Both are expected to play more substantial roles in the Packers' first formal test of the season, Saturday night's fifth annual Bishop's Charies game with the dramatically revamped Giants in Lambeau Field. With the All-Star additions, the Packers' rookie complement leans heavily to offense types. 10 of the 16 are now assigned to the attacking unit - tight ends Jim Thibert (Toledo) and John Housel (Wofford), guard Eli Strand (Iowa State), center-tackle Dick Koeper (Oregon State) and halfbacks Bill Symons (Colorado), Ron Heller (USC), Allen Jacobs (Utah), Jerry Roberts (Baldwin-Wallace) and Coffey and Curry. Bidding for berths on the defensive platoon are tackles Dick Herzing (Drake), Roger Jacobazzi (Wisconsin), and mountainous Rick Marshall (Stephen F. Austin College) and halfbacks Wally Mahle (Syracuse), Larry Moore (Central Michigan) and Donnie Davis (Southern University). The 38 veterans include 14-year campaigner Dave Hanner, presently listed as a player-coach, and convalescent Jerry Kramer, who has been attached to the defensive unit until he reaches competitive condition...DATE IMMINENT: That day, the indomitable "Guardian Angel" insists, is imminent. Jerry, who hasn't established official contact since early on the afternoon of Oct. 4, 1964 (the day he was forced to retire because of illness in a 24-23 loss to the Minnesota Vikings), is confident he will be available for part-time duty against the Giants Saturday night. A series of operations, including one which removed three wood splinters from Kramer's' abdomen, have intervened, but Jerry has worked diligently since reporting July 24 and regained his accustomed playing weight of 245 pounds, leading him to conclude he is on the verge of readiness. Hanner, who made a brief appearance in the intra-squad go, is being permitted to set his own training pace, and, presumably, determine himself whether he will play out that 14th season or retire and become a full-fledged member of the Packer brain trust.

KRAMER CAN PLAY AGAINST GIANTS

AUG 10 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - "The doctor said they're going to take the bridle off and let me run." Massive Jerry Kramer, relaxing upon a Packer dressing room table Monday, said it matter-of-factly, but he couldn't repress a slight smile of satisfaction. Not, it might be added, without just cause. There were those, it may be recalled who said it couldn't be done, that the calamity-ridden all-pro would never play again, following his recent and protracted struggle with a rare infection and a seemingly endless series of abdominal operations. But Jerry, a man of equally rare courage and fortitude, insisted from the outset that he would "overcome." And, to all intents and purposes, he has. "Dr. Brusky (Dr. Eugene Brusky, a Packer team physician) told Coach Lombardi I'm ready to play," Kramer happily confided. "Now it's up to the coach to decide when I'm ready." Lombardi hasn't announced his decision, but there obviously is a possibility JK will set at least spot action in Saturday night's Bishop's Charities match with the New York Giants at Lambeau Field, since the 29-year-old "Guardian Angel" was running from his old right guard post in yesterday's practice and taking his regular blocking turn in a dummy scrimmage. Jerry, who had been working himself into playing shape largely on his own, previously had been assigned to the defensive platoon and restricted largely to calisthenics and springs, with an occasional stab at the blocking sled. Discussing the doctor's decision, Kramer declared, "Might as well find out right now what I can do. Might as well get the right start." The morning's contact, his first contact since last Oct. 4 when illness forced him out of a game with the Minnesota Vikings here, "didn't bother me at all," he was delighted to report. "I feel real good - just excellent." In fact, Jerry grinned, "I'm afraid my body is going to be operated on again, it feels so good." "Now I've got to watch my weight," he added. "I was about 246 1/2 or 247 this morning, and I normally play at 245, so I'm going to have to lose a little. All I've got to do now is run, run, run, and get in there with the group and get the feel of things." There has been no abdominal discomfort? "No, that's the amazing thing," Kramer replied. "I've been starting to pound the belly on the ground, and it hasn't even been sore." Guarding against building his hopes too high, Jerry concluded, "Of course, it's hard to tell how much I've lost and how much I've missed. I'll just have to wait and see."...Shortly before the close of Monday morning's session, only one of the day as the Pack launched its one-a-day schedule, the Packers took formal note of their first 1965 opponent when the defense deployed to run against Giant plays, as executed by the offense. Fifty yards away, on the adjacent practice field, Paul Hornung tried his hands at field goal kicking for the first time this season - with startling effect. Hornung, who has been troubled by an ankle sprain on his kicking foot, boomed several over the crossbar from 50 yards out, including two or three from a sharp angle. Kramer also joined Paul and Don Chandler in this exercise, which saw all three connect with heartening consistency...PACKER PATTER: Rookies Bill Curry and Junior Coffey, just out of the College All-Star camp, were indoctrinated in the Packer

workaday regimen during Monday's session. Curry, who presided at "the last 3 or 4 snaps" in Saturday night's rain-soaked scrimmage, reported with a smile, "It was about the same as the night before (the Cleveland Browns and All-Stars also toiled under dewy skies). In fact, almost exactly the same."...Speaking of moisture, "that ball Don Chandler kicked 48 yards Saturday night was soaking wet," clubhouse aide Pete Bouguignon reported, somewhat in awe. "As a matter of fact, everything was soaking wet - even the 'dry' towels."

TWO-YEAR PACT SET

AUG 10 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Ed Gagnon, originator and general chairman of the Bishop's Charities football game for the past five years, announced today that a new two-year contract for the game has been signed by the Bishop's organization and Green Bay Packers, Inc. Gagnon also revealed that this will be his last year as general chairman of the contest, which has attracted four straight sellouts and produced more than $160,000 for charity. This figure likely will be boosted over $200,000 after the 1965 game, which will draw a record crowd of 50,837. Sportscaster Jim Irwin of Channel 11 will be master of ceremonies at pregame ceremonies. Halftime entertainment will be provided by the "Boys of '76" Drum and Bugle Corps of American Legion Post 76 of Racine.

NFL ENTRY IN HOUSTON DIM FOR '66

AUG 10 (Houston) - NFL Commissioner Pete Rozelle says the fact that Houston already has an AFL club would not affect the NFL's decision on whether to move here. "They've (the AFL) been in four of our cities," he said. "We'll move into whatever city is in the best interest of our league, and I am sure they feel the same way about placing a franchise in an NFL city. After all, Dallas, St. Louis and Pittsburgh should be embarrassed. They are the only cities that haven't been named as possible

sites for AFL franchises." Rozelle held a news conference Monday at the Harris County Astrodome at which time he termed the admission of a second expansion team to join Atlanta next year as "very remote." But he

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did not rule out completely the possibility of Houston or another city being admitted to the league in 1966, He also said his league has a policy against an individual or group owning controlling interest in more than one major sports venture. This apparently rules out Roy Hofheinz, president of the Houston Sports Association, as a majority stockholder if Houston obtains an NFL franchise. "We believe the primary purpose of a pro football owner is football, and he can't do that if he is devoting full time to baseball," Rozelle said. "Minority ownership is fine." Hofheinz, who last week acquired a controlling interest in the Houston Astro baseball team and has a 40-year lease on the domed stadium, was present at the conference. "I have said all along that we would welcome an NFL team as a landlord or as an owner," Hofheinz said. "At the time, I thought it might be possible to be the owner. It's only since I talked with the commission that I learned I couldn't." The AFL Houston Oilers were scheduled to play home games in the Astrodome, but announced they would play at Rice University stadium following a rent dispute with Hofheinz. Among the prospective cities for NFL expansion, Rozelle mentioned Toronto, Montreal, Boston, Miami, New Orleans, Houston, Seattle, Portland, Phoenix and Cincinnati...OTHER FACTORS CONSIDERED: He said a marketing research report will be made on three or four of the cities. He said it would be late fall before the report is completed, and it will be presented to NFL owners at the February meeting. However, he said other factors will be taken into consideration in picking the city. Rozelle said reports that the Dallas Cowboys are pushing for an NFL franchise in Houston is not the case. He said the fact that Houston would be a natural rival for Dallas is not really important. "Natural rivalries aren't as important as they used to be," Rozelle said. "There are sellouts in cities like Chicago, Detroit and Cleveland not because of rivalries, but because of the established stars and teams the NFL represents."

GREGG MAY BE 'FREED' FOR RIGHT TACKLE

AUG 11 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - An intriguing game of "musical chairs" may be developing on the Packer horizon. More specifically in the offensive line, where the early "return" of perennial patient Jerry Kramer, originally expected to sit out until midseason, has cast a new light upon the situation. Tuesday's announcement that Kramer has been medically cleared for combat in Saturday night's Bishop's Charities march with the New York Giants in Lambeau Field has triggered multiple speculation about the Packers' front wall. If Jerry regains his considerable skill, for example, which now appears a distinct possibility, fellow all-pro Forrest Gregg presumably could be freed for reinstatement at right tackle, the post he vacated in midseason last year after Kramer was stricken with a rare infection and companion "guardian angel" Fuzzy Thurston was shelved with a shoulder injury. Should this come to pass, the loss of Norm Masters, who retired the opening day of practice, would be to a large extent offset, although it obviously would be better to have three experienced offensive tackles (including Bob Skoronski) than two. Steve Wright, king-sized (6-6, 250) sophomore from Alabama, has been holding forth in Masters' sport and is more than casually interested in staying there, which is likely to enliven the Packers' one-a-day sessions for some time to come. Kramer's comeback also has posed any number of additional questions - like, for example, who will emerge with the guard assignments. Dan Grimm was a regular on the left side the last half of 1964 and now is contending with Thurston, hale once again, Kramer and Gregg for regular employment. When the Packers deploy against the Steelers in their NFL opener at Pittsburgh Sept. 19, it could once again be Thurston and Kramer - or it could be Grimm and Kramer, or Thurston and Grimm; or, perhaps, Thurston and Gregg. Lloyd Voss, rapidly developing sophomore from Nebraska, and Eli Strand, an impressive 250-pound rookie from Iowa State, also must be reckoned with here, since both are working at both guard and tackle. The same applies at tackle, where another solid citizen, Oregon State's Rich Koeper, has entered the picture. Until recently at center, Koeper has been moved to offensive tackle with the arrival of College All-Star Bill Curry, center-linebacker from Georgia Tech. Whatever the eventual alignment, and it may be the Pack will emerge with the same format (except for center Ken Bowman) that presided at the acquisition of world titles in 1961-62, Skoronski, Thurston, Kramer and Gregg (reading from left to right), Vince Lombardi's 1965 attacking wall will be blessed with uncommon versatility. There will be no need for a hasty shuffle, such as was precipitated by Thurston's injury last November, when Grimm moved in at left guard, Gregg at right guard, Masters at right tackle, and Bowman at center. The Packers proceeded to put a 42-13 blast upon the Vikings in Bloomington, Minn., with the offensive line staging a spectacular show and went on to lead the NFL in rushing for the season. The Packers, donning the pads for the first time since Saturday night's intra-squad exercise, again worked against Giant plays, before adjourning to St. Norbert College's Memorial Union for the third annual "Meet the Packers" luncheon. Addressing a full house of more than 250 fans, Lombardi declared, "This is by far the best camp I've ever had since I have been with the Packers. There is more spirit, more determination, more of everything than I have seen since I have been with the Packers. If that same spirit and determination prevails, and it must of course, there is no reason why we shouldn't have a very excellent team." Terming his '65 squad "by far the best conditioned football team I've had," Lombardi observed, "There are other things, however, and one of the most important is pride. So far, there is every indication that they have great pride. Pride, of course, must be constant - it is not something you can turn on and off like a light bulb. You must have it on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday, as well as on Sunday." Noting that three retirements have occurred since last season (Jesse Whittenton, Norm Masters and Jerry Norton), the Packer headmaster said, "We hate to see the veterans go, but this is a cruel business - they know and I know it." "We have some fine young backs and fine linemen," he added, "so again it is going to be a tough decision. But everybody has a chance - no one's job is assured. Our success this year depends largely on our young men - the first year men and those of the last two or three years." Lombardi introduced his assistants (Phil Bengtson, Tom Fears, Norb Hecker, Ray Wietecha and Dave Hanner) and the members of the squad individually. Al Schneider, chairman of the Chamber of Commerce "Minutemen," sponsors of the affair, and Frank Shekore, who served as emcee, and the Rev. D.M. Burke, president of St. Norbert College, also spoke briefly.

PERSONALITY PARADE

AUG 11 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Although the path ahead is not without shadows, rawboned, bespectacled Dennis Claridge no longer feels like a man in the dark. The Pack's strapping sophomore quarterback, a highly artistic performer in last weekend's water carnival at Lambeau Field, forthrightly assesses his efforts with, "It's still new, but I'm starting to get a small idea and a concept of what we're working for. Once you get that, you know what to develop, and it just takes time." Admitting he has been "quite nervous," the 220-pound Nebraska alumnus explained, "It's been such a long time since I've played - and there's been so much to learn. I played only in a couple of exhibitions last year, you know." There was little to suggest the novice in his intra-squad performance, however. Taking command from the outset, Claridge completed four of five passes for 51 yards, climaxing the sodden evening with a 16-yard touchdown strike to Carroll Dale, accomplished refugee from the Los Angeles Rams. Exercising excellent judgment, Dennis also "pulled the ball down" on three other occasions and rambled for a total of 45 yards on those sorties, the last of which set the stage for Don Chandler's fifth field goal, a 48-yard burse. Flashing a deprecating smile, Claridge dismissed these contributions with, "It was just one of those nights when everything turned out good. There are still so many things I'm trying to learn. Like, for example, that you have certain keys - people you have to watch on the defense. Sometimes in a game or scrimmage, you get confused. That's the period I'm going through." How had he found toiling through "Operation Deluge?" "It was slippery," Claridge conceded, "but it really was a good experience. When a game comes along and it pours like that, they don't call it off, so you've just got to get used to it. This was good experience for me, because I got used to throwing a wet ball, handling a wet ball, and getting a wet ball from center." Did he feel that "sitting out" last season might have hindered his development? "I think everybody would like to play, and you need the experience," the 23-year-old Robinsdale, Minn., native replied, choosing his words carefully. "But this way, I was practiced at halfback, too, as well as quarterback, and I learned the patterns and the other things that they have to do. The halfback has to look for the hole, for example, and you have to realize their problems. In that way, it helped me." Analyzing the familiar contention it takes five years to "make" a pro quarterback, Claridge observed, "The way the league changes - it improves every year - you're learning all the time. I don't think anybody ever learns it all. That's why I admire Bart (Starr) and Brat (Zeke Bratkowski) - because new things come out and they adjust with them." How did he evaluate his chances of playing, with this veteran pair in front of him? "Everybody hopes they're going to play, of course," said the youthful field general, who undoubtedly will be called upon during Saturday night's Bishop's Charities match with New York's Giants in Lambeau Field. "It's just a matter of keeping on improving - you can't stay the same. And you've got to realize what Bart and Zeke are doing, and learn what they are doing." A shiny new father (No. 1 son David was born in April), the quiet, reserved young Minnesotan still is committed to a career in dentistry. "I went back to Nebraska in the offseason to pick up some credits," he said, " and I plan on continuing in dentistry in the offseason as long as I can. I want to be a dentist, some day. Football is a means to an end - and I really like it."

GIANTS THROW SIX 'BIG BACKS' VS. PACKERS

AUG 12 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Vince Lombardi, as every good Packerphile knows, is the acknowledged originator of pro football's "big back" offense. The faithful also are aware that the erstwhile Block of Granite's sledgehammer approach has paid dazzling dividends, playing a major role in the Pack's surge to three Western Division championships and consecutive world titles in 1961-62, not to mention a glittering overall record of 58-20-2. But it may be coming back to haunt the Packer perfectionist in Saturday night's Bishop's Charities rendezvous with the New York Giants in Lambeau Field, which has been rechristened and re-expanded since last the local prides and their imminent guests cantered there. The Giants, it develops, have embraced the "big back" credo with vengeance. Articulate Allie Sherman, who recently acquired social security status with the signing of a 10-year ($200,000) contract, initiated the project in 1964 when he drafted Southern Illinois' massive (6-3, 248) Ernie Wheelwright, who has to be football's biggest fullback, and Stanford's 6-2, 230-pound Steve Thurlow. So happy was Sherman with these acquisitions, he plucked Auburn blockbuster Tucker Frederickson, 6-1 and 230, Ernie Koy of Texas, a hulking 6-3 and 235, Yale's Chuck Mercein, 6-1 and 230, and Smith Reed, 6-0 and 218, of Alcorn A&M from 1964's collegiate crop. The Pack's "bull elephant" backfield, it must be admitted, pales ever so slightly by comparison with these legitimate "Giants," with Jim Taylor, Paul

Hornung and rookie Junior Coffey (all in the vicinity of 218) as its most substantial citizens. Don Smith, Giant publicity and author of note ("Y.A. Tittle" and two other tomes), proudly proclaims, "I don't think the Giants ever had six ball carriers of this size and ability in camp before. Thurlow and Koy both throw the option very well, either left or right," continued Smith, who arrived in Green Bay Wednesday afternoon with the avowed purpose of briefing Packerland on the "new" Giants. "They're all very good receivers - and all good blockers." To take full advantage of his burgeoning beef trust, Sherman has installed the slotback formation. "We have the left end split wide, as all teams do today," Smith explained, "but instead of playing the tight end in close, he's out wide and we put a back in the slot between the right end and tackle. Joe Morrison is the slotback and he's ideal for it. He gives us another blocker on running plays and he's also in a position to get out for passes. Allie put it in mainly to take advantage of some of the big backs and to give our running game a little more power," Don added. "Allie feels we're going to have to do more running and get the maximum from our running game." Sherman also not neglected the quarterback in his revamped approach. "We aren't going to have any scrambler," Smith noted by way of explanation, "but Allie does have plays for Gary Wood and Bob Timberlake (6-4, 220 rookie from Michigan), a little kind of a semi-rollout business. He has so many good backs, it is doubtful if the quarterback will be running too much, but he will be ready if the occasion presents itself." Three members of the Giants, currently tapering off at the New Yorkers' Fairfield, Conn., training camp for their opening assignment, will sit out Saturday night's match, Sherman reported today. Linebacker Lou Slaby, guard Darrell Dess and quarterbacks Henry Schichtle and Timberlake will not play because of minor injuries, he said. Timberlake may see limited action as a kicker, however, Sherman said. The Giants are scheduled to arrive at Austin Straubel Field at noon Friday and will work out in Lambeau Field at 2 o'clock...PACKER PATTER: The Packers devoted a half hour of Wednesday morning's 2 1/4-hour session expressly to the enemy, with the offense first working against the anticipated New York defense, followed by a defensive drill against the Giant offense, as executed by the Pack's attacking unit...Junior Coffey, the impressively-hewn rookie from the University of Washington, who has been in camp only five days, earlier drew praise for his flawless execution in a dummy signal drill. As a climax to the workout, the defense strove to block a series of field goal attempts by Don Chandler and Paul Hornung. Chandler escaped unscathed, but two of Hornung's drives were "fielded," one by mountainous Ron Kostelnik, the other by a leaping Willie Wood...Defensive Capt. Hank Gremminger, a doubtful starter Saturday night, continued in a spectator's role.

PACKER OPENER CAST HAS SIX NEW FACES

AUG 13 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - The drastically revamped New York Giants, the Packers' guests in their preseason inaugural in Lambeau Field Saturday night, don't have a corner on the youth movement. The Packer cast also will be dotted with new faces, new at least to starting status, and, in one case, to Green Bay silks when the home forces deploy against Allie Sherman's resurgents for the fifth straight time in behalf of the Bishop's Charities. Six members of tomorrow night's indicated Packer format were not in evidence when Vince Lombardi's athletes closed out the 1964 schedule with a 24-24 deadlock against the Rams in Los Angeles. One of these, sophomore Tom Brown, will be sitting in for injured defensive Capt. Hank Gremminger, who has been shelved with stretched ligaments in his right knee since being broadsided in a scrimmage Aug. 2. The others have stepped into voids created by retirement, illness and the trade mart. Strapping Steve Wright (6-6, 250) will debut at right tackle, left open by Norm Masters' decision to call it a career, and either Doug Hart or Bob Jeter, transferred from flanker, at the right cornerback post vacated by the retiring Jesse Whittenton. Norb Hecker, the Pack's defensive backfield coach, has not reached a decision in the latter case. "I probably won't decide until just before the game," he said today, adding, "we will probably alternate starting them throughout the exhibition season and work each one a half a ball game." Another major change will find massive Marv Fleming, a three year veteran from Utah U., standing in for the departed Ron Kramer at right end. Kramer, who played out his option last season, recently signed with the Detroit Lions as the result of a transaction in which the Lions tendered their No. 1 choice in next January's draft to the Packers. Joining Brown and Hart or Jeter on the defensive platoon will be Dave Robinson, who succeeds Dan Currie, dealt to the Los Angeles Rams over the winter for flanker Carroll Dale. Dale, an impressive addition, will open at the right flank, where Boyd Dowler previously has held forth, and Dowler will be stationed at split end on the left side, Max McGee's customary niche. McGee, injured in Thursday's workout, may see only limited action. Six stiches were required to close a gash in the middle finger of the 10-year veteran's left hand and it has been placed in a splint-like casing, in company with his ring finger. The balance of tomorrow night's opening assignment will find Offensive Capt. Bob Skoronski at left tackle, Dan Grimm and Forrest Gregg at the guards, Ken Bowman at center, Bart Starr at quarterback, Paul Hornung at left halfback and Jim Taylor at fullback - all holdovers from 1964's finale. Defensively, it will be Willie Davis and Lionel Aldridge at the ends, Hank Jordan and Ron Kostelnik at tackle, Ray Nitschke at middle linebacker and Lee Roy Caffey at right linebacker, all of whom also presided in last season's swan song...PACKER PATTER: "I was reaching for a pass and somebody bumped my arm and jammed my hand into the ball," was McGee's unhappy explanation of his mid-morning mishap. "That was the only good finger I had left," he added ruefully, illustrating by twirling and bending the four other gnarled fingers on his hand at will. McGee expects to take part in tomorrow night's exercise, however, although he quipped, "This might slow down my one-hand catching a bit."...Rapidly convalescing Jerry Kramer, expected to make his first competitive appearance since last Oct. 4 in the Giant match, is pleased with his progress. "I tire quickly," he reported following Thursday's drill, "but I recuperate quickly. Three or four plays and I'm winded, but one play out and I'm ready to go again, which is a good sign."...Gremminger, who observed "I don't want to take a chance on wrecking my knee before it's completely healed," informed, "I'm still having pain, and it's awful weak."...The Packers spiced yesterday's session with their "two minute" drill, running against the clock in an attempt to score. The first unit produced a 25-yard Don Chandler field goal, and the second a 22-yard Paul Hornung FG.

RECORD 50,837 TO WATCH PACKERS AGAINST GIANTS TONIGHT

AUG 14 (Green Bay Press-Gazette) - Vince Lombardi said, "I don't know anything about this team. And Allie Sherman said, "It looks hazy." If you get the impression the opposing strategists in tonight's fifth annual Bishop's Charities game are slightly in the dark about what's likely to transpire in newly rechristened Lambeau Field, you are so right. All Lombardi, formally unveiling his seventh Packer team for public appraisal, would venture Friday is, "Everything is ahead of us - we have a long way to go before the beginning of the season." Sherman, fresh from exercising his athletes in Green Bay's expanded football factory beneath a broiling mid-afternoon sun, conceded his revamped Giants to be a "good spirited club. They've come back from last year with an excellent attitude and spirit. But we won't know about this team for awhile, really," Allie further observed, optimistically appending, "I think it'll come out pretty good, but it'll be awhile before we know." If tonight's match goes according to the script, the Packers will emerge with the decision, since they own a spotless 4-0 record in their "Charities" series with the Giants. Following successive 20-17 verdicts in 1961 and '62, the Pack managed to forge a 24-17 victory in '63 and followed with a 34-10 triumph last year, blitzing the easterners with a 24-point fourth quarter. This fifth collision will be staged against a somewhat historical backdrop. The combatants will be performing before the largest professional football crowd in Wisconsin history, 50.837, new capacity of the stadium, which has been enlarged by 8,510 seats since last season. It also will be the first official game - the Packers' annual Offense vs. Defense exercise was staged there last Saturday night - to be played in the former City Stadium since its name has been changed to Lambeau Field by vote of the City Council in memory of the late E.L. (Curly) Lambeau, founder and first coach of the Packers, who died June 1. Both the Pack and Giants, who have undergone wholesale changes in the past two years, enter the match with something of a "new look." The New Yorkers, in fact, only faintly resemble the Giants who submitted to a 37-0 decimation in the 1961 championship game in former City Stadium. Gone are Y.A. Tittle, Frank Gifford and Alex Webster, heroes of the Giants' '61 and '62 Eastern Division champions, and, in their places, a new running-type quarterback, Gary Wood, and a "bull elephant" backfield harnessed to the slotback formation. Sherman, who has determined that his Giants must run more if they would return to the Eastern throne room, will submit the Pack's front four to the acid test with six king-sized backs, ranging from 218 to 240 pounds. Two of them, 6-3, 240-pound fullback Ernie Wheelwright and 6-2, 235-pound Steve Thurlow, will be in the Giants' starting lineup, along with Wood and the flanker in the visitor's slot attack, Joe Morrison. Also available here are rookies Ernie Koy (6-3, 235) of Texas, Tucker Frederickson (6-1, 230) of Auburn, Chuck Mercein (6-1, 230) of Yale and Smith Reed (6-0, 218) of Alcorn A&M. Wood, heir apparent to the retired Tittle's mantle, will attempt to complement the thrusts of these baby behemoths by pitching an occasional strike to such as Del Shofner, the mercurial split end who reportedly is hale again after an enervating bout with ulcers last season, and right end Aaron Thomas, among others. The balance of the Giants' opening offensive alignment will have all-pro Roosevelt Brown and Frank Lary at the tackles, Dave O'Brien and Bookie Bolin at the guards, and Mickey Walker, filling in for Greg Larson, at center. Larson is recuperating after knee surgery. Three rookies, two of them linebackers, will be in the invaders' starting defensive cast. Tom Costello of Dayton will be at left linebacker and Tom Carroll of Notre Dame in the middle, while Arizona sprinter Henry Carr will be at left safety. Veteran Tom Scott will be stationed on the right side. The other assignments will find Jim Katcavage and Andy Stynchula at the ends, Jim Moran and John LoVetere at the tackles, Erich Barnes and Dick Lynch at the corners and Jim Patton at right safety. There will be seven changes from the final '64 format, one occasioned by injury, in tonight's Packer lineup. Sophomore Tom Brown will be at left safety in behalf of defensive Capt. Henry Gremminger, sidelined since Aug. 2 with stretched ligaments in his right knee, and either Doug Hart or Bob Jeter at left cornerback, vacated by the retiring Jesse Whittenton. Dave Robinson will replace Dan Currie, traded to Los Angeles, at left linebacker. Offensively, Steve Wright will be at right tackle in place of Norm Masters, who retired the opening day of practice; Marv Fleming at right end, succeeding Ron Kramer, now a Detroit Lion; Carroll Dale, acquired in the Currie trade, will debut at flanker on the right side; and Boyd Dowler, right halfback last year, will be deployed at the left or split end, where Max McGee held forth last season.

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